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- on Wed 08 Feb 2012
- 11:12:03 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
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Name: Johnvkmedia
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12/10/2010 pennyauctionwatch.com
Ethical issues
PAW is a self proclaimed "Penny Auction Watchdog" yet some of the Penny Auctions with the worst web reputations receive praise from PAW (and funny enough, happen to also be the ones advertised on PAW's website). Very untrustworthy and ethically corrupt.
12/01/2010 bidmacs.com
Good customer experience
Absolutely love it! At first I had a billing issue, but that was resolved quick, and I can't tell you how much I have won. It is unbelievable... I wish there was a rating above Excellent!!!The scorecard reviewer I mentioned above was affiliated with the penny auction site BidMacs.com. In an effort to try to cover up their shady dealings a number of penny auctions that act dishonestly have tried to smear my reputation.
See the reviewer's myspace http://www.myspace.com/efuturemedia Note his public information on myspace found via a search for his WOT username on google and his email:
MSN: jmccann@vankomenmedia.com found on his myspace.VanKomen is the surname of the individual that registered the BidMacs trademark and owned BidMacs.com.
Bidmacs.com did register their TM with the USPTO.gov, The applicant is Linda VanKomen 1111 E. Draper Parkway, Suite 300 Draper, Utah ...
See: http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2010/11/bidmacs-c...Notice how his comments are false for me yet positive for the now defunct penny auction site BidMacs.com.
I exposed BidMacs.com on PennyAuctionWatch.com.
For instance, they falsely used images of popular bloggers under a testimonial section on their website. I uncovered this in my blog: http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2010/11/justine-e...
They falsely claimed to be BBB Accredited but I investigated and in my blog I revealed that they were not:
http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2010/11/bidmacs-c...Thank you.
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- on Thu 09 Feb 2012
- 12:31:54 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
You know, you're probably right. The penny auction space is dirty as hell and I don't doubt that people you've reviewed negatively have voted against you.
But, at the same time, you are endorsing (or advertising) other sites that are not that good either, e.g. QuiBid. I'm not saying this to criticize you, but the majority opinion on WOT seems to be that penny auction sites that sell bid packs are by definition untrustworthy. I'm saying this to mostly explain what the expectations are for a voter in this area.
That said, after looking at your site, it's pretty informative. It doesn't look it on first glance, but it seems like you're actually serving as a resource here by aggregating a lot of the information in the penny auction world. Your 'exposé' articles seem well written, and follow many of the same methodologies we use here at WOT.
I think the core problem is trusting that information. It's obvious from the ads, and the positive tone of some of the writeups
(e.g. hxxp://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2010/08/dont-lose-on-new-penny-auction-shopbig-com/)
that you're not an unbiased source. Your investigative work seems sound, and the news aggregation is frankly probably valuable for someone interested in penny auctions. It's obvious that you have exposed some shady operators in the past, but what's not obvious is how trustworthy any 'positive' information is. -
- on Thu 09 Feb 2012
- 12:53:43 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
Thank you. However, I do not endorse any penny auction site nor is Quibids an advertiser of mine nor have they ever been an advertiser nor have I been an affiliate. Any ads for QuiBids would be a google adwords ad. Actually, I post about the good the bad, and the ugly. Sites like ShopBig.com offered buy it now meaning you really do not lose the money you invest if you opt buy it now that's all I said by that article. If any of the "positive"information is not trustworthy or you have reason to believe that a site I have talked about in a more positive light is a scam please by all means let me know and I will correct it. My site is geared towards new bidders looking to find out more about a penny auction and the precautions and for seasoned bidders, as you will see in the forum, there are users who do like to bid on penny auctions, who have received items, who have sometimes gotten a deal. I do not endorse any one site but post anything like I see it and if I need to be corrected I will be, thank you.
You know, you're probably right. The penny auction space is dirty as hell and I don't doubt that people you've reviewed negatively have voted against you.But, at the same time, you are endorsing (or advertising) other sites that are not that good either, e.g. QuiBid. I'm not saying this to criticize you, but the majority opinion on WOT seems to be that penny auction sites that sell bid packs are by definition untrustworthy. I'm saying this to mostly explain what the expectations are for a voter in this area.
That said, after looking at your site, it's pretty informative. It doesn't look it on first glance, but it seems like you're actually serving as a resource here by aggregating a lot of the information in the penny auction world. Your 'exposé' articles seem well written, and follow many of the same methodologies we use here at WOT.
I think the core problem is trusting that information. It's obvious from the ads, and the positive tone of some of the writeups
(e.g. hxxp://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2010/08/dont-lose-on-new-penny-auction-shopbig-com/)
that you're not an unbiased source. Your investigative work seems sound, and the news aggregation is frankly probably valuable for someone interested in penny auctions. It's obvious that you have exposed some shady operators in the past, but what's not obvious is how trustworthy any 'positive' information is. -
- on Thu 09 Feb 2012
- 04:05:33 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
The real SCAM site is pennyauctionwatch.com and if you invest some time on that site it is so easy to see.
First the owner acts as a "Watchdog" for a unregulated industry. One must appoint themselves for such a position.
Second the site has a high Alexa ranking to make people believe it is a high traffic website. Fact is all the traffic is fake and a script is used to simulate traffic and increase the Alexa ranking. If you dont believe this to be true just spend some time on the site and you will figure it out. At all times the site shows it has hundreds of people on the website, yet most days there are very few post made on the forums. When post are made it is by the same six or seven people. The percentages simply do not add up.
Third, the site is used to strong arm Penny Auction Websites and dominate Google rankings with negativity to increase traffic and drive money from Google adwords. Just spend some time on the site and a blind man can see a clear pattern.
The pennyauctionwatch.com owner and her buddy Gary Fowler AKA realbidtowin will at first promote a new Penny Auction website and offer advice to the owner while making friends with them and get free bids from them. They will then win big on the website with the free bids and allow the website to get behind on wins to them. They then start to extort the website with threats of making negative post about them on pennyauctionwatch.com and putting them out of business if they dont pay up. The Penny Auction website believing their business will be hurt, over pays them to the point they cant pay other winners. Once they have milked the website for all they can all the negative post start on pennyauctionwatch.com and all the bad Google links end up putting the website out of business leaving other real customers getting nothing.
The pennyauctionwatch.com owner "Amanda" and Gary Fowler clean up on this SCAM over and over again. If you do not believe this to be true just spend some time on pennyauctionwatch.com doing some research looking at old topics and post and you will see a clear pattern.
The pennyauctionwatch.com TOS says you can not personally attack anyone. If you do some research you will see realbidtowin constantly attacks Penny Auction website owners and his buddy Amanda allows this though no other member can do the same.
Again do not take my word for it, simply spend some time on her website and do some research and its easy to see. She really uses her website for profit while hiding behind being a self appointed "watchdog" for an unregulated industry.
I predict that if the current lawsuit against thedirty.com is a win for the plaintiff, pennyauctionwatch.com will be spending many days in court because they will no longer be able to hide behind saying it is the site users making post and destroying businesses and not them.
Pennyauctionwatch.com is a total SCAM and designed to extort and profit off Penny Auction websites.
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- on Thu 09 Feb 2012
- 05:52:47 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
You could not be more wrong. I am not affiliated in any way with Gary Fowler he is just a member of my site. What are you even talking about?
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- on Thu 09 Feb 2012
- 06:03:15 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
And by the way, if I started my website for profit I would actually be making money. Your accusations are false, baseless and defamatory.
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- on Thu 09 Feb 2012
- 07:15:47 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
I believe it is all in English above. Maybe you should spend some time on your own website. Everything I stated is there and speaks for itself.
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- on Thu 09 Feb 2012
- 09:38:31 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
endorse...
there was the gift-card give-away
hXXp://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2012/02/free-penny-auction-bids-giveaway-winners/
A huge thank you goes out to all of the generous penny auction sites that donated the prizes for this giveawaywsj
Fans of penny auctions say they mix the competitive charge of Internet auction sites like eBay with the suspense and gratification of flash sales and online gambling.Most PA sites I've come across have fake trust seals, a few have SSL which is nice to aid in safeguarding privacy, but it doesn't remedy the fact that the penny auction model is that of a raffle. No "winning" auctions actually win the item, they win the "right to purchase" (at yet another fee).
When the FTC / BBB / Consumer Affairs / USA Today / among many others have proffered warnings, ex: FTC Consumer Alert visit | PDF then WOT should also proffer a warning; people should be made well aware of the differences between penny auctions and that of eBay (for example).
About WOT
First, understand, WOT blocks nothing, the site loads and if reputation is low WOT overlays a warning screen, anyone can continue on to the site and if they trust it, they can offer it good ratings - WOT does not warn you against sites you trust regardless of it's reputation.Ratings are cast by secret ballot, no one see who rates or how, just click the icon and offer ratings in the pop-up window.
Comments are visible on the scorecard, comments require registration to these forums, comments are optional, excluding usage of the MRT, but comments have no affect to computed reputation, they aren't even restricted to "how" you rate - you can offer poor ratings and a good site comment.
The Support page has an FAQ
The WOT Wiki: http://www.mywot.com/wiki/Main_Page
has a more extensive FAQ
You should learn what WOT is and how it works.Concerning pennyauctionwatch.com
I've edited my reference in the PA thread and removed the domain, along with one other (pennyburners.com)
My reasons are explained here, I've also created a "bump" post since old post edits are not indexed as "new"Also,
I came across this bit of history which references penny auctions from the 1930's :)
http://www.livinghistoryfarm.org/farminginthe30s/money_10.html------- WOT Services Ltd. - gives us safety through Web of Trust. WOT Community - gives us security through unity. ∞
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- on Thu 09 Feb 2012
- 08:15:54 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
PennyAuctionWatch -
My apologies for mischaracterizing your relationship with QuiBid, you were right and it was a Google adwords ad. I think in review that I agree with g7w; that this site is informational in nature, and not transactional.
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- on Sat 11 Feb 2012
- 07:46:08 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
@ OP = Welcome
Based on your description and the talk in this thread
"Resource and watchdog source dedicated to providing tips, news and reviews of penny auction sites."
I removed my rating and comment , bu Monday or the following day I would be able to make a better decision in re- rating your site
I do not consider penny auctions in the same category as E bay and I will re rate based on that principleBest regards
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- on Wed 15 Feb 2012
- 11:13:53 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
I have got to give Amanda credit, she changed her site so the fake traffic doesn't show at the bottom of the page now. Of course she also begged her six or seven real users to come and post positive reviews here. Time will make her website go away when business owners drag her to court for extortion.
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- on Thu 16 Feb 2012
- 06:45:37 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
I have got to give Amanda credit, she changed her site so the fake traffic doesn't show at the bottom of the page now. Of course she also begged her six or seven real users to come and post positive reviews here. Time will make her website go away when business owners drag her to court for extortion.
Untrue on many levels...A quick, foreword...
Amanda and I are not friends, and in fact, I think it's safe to say that she hates me (even though my feelings towards her are closer to indifference/no feelings). However, I would not let my personal feelings cloud my judgment here. She has wronged a lot of people, and I may be one of the only people she has ever apologized to for such a wrong doing... However...I don't believe that Amanda has "fake traffic", as it has been falling considerably in the last few months, which I think is why she decided to remove that information from the forum home page. The information showed how many people were online, and how many members were signed in.
For the record, you can still see the information here http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/forum/online.php (must be logged in to view)
I don't think it's fair to say she begged either. She did what Patrick (administrator of MyWOT) would have told her to do if she complained about the poor ratings. "Ask your audience to rate you."
I did not take this approach, because I do not only care about my site's reputation, but that of the entire industry. I am here to slowly, and surely, inform the MyWOT community that they are wrong on their view that the penny auction industry is a giant scam. This is what justified them in creating and voting on the Mass Rating Tool list where both PennyAuctionWatch and I (PennyBurners) were included, and thanks to Mr. g7w (Should I add the "Mr." I feel like I should =) ) we have both been removed as g7w understood that we inform people who wish to know about penny auctions.
If all of our members install the addon, they will see that "untrusted" message for _EVERY_ penny auction site they have been going to for years. This could definitely confuse users that know otherwise, and even create drama here in this community from thousands of people complaining about their favorite sites being listed poorly, based on a few wrong views.
Finally, the extortion claim has no merit. Is Amanda unreasonable? Yes. Will she ignore you if she is upset at you? Yes. Would she change her opinion of you if you offered her money? No. I'll even add a "hell no".
You don't have to take my word for it, either. Amanda has publicly removed paid-for sponsorship forums from her site if the penny auction site loses the trust of her community. We have done the same thing. SwipeAuctions (who are suing her for $18,000,000) tried to "encourage" her to remove the blog which lead to their law suit. I am sure that if she could have been bought, or intended on extorting penny auctions, that they would have been able to pay her whatever she asked. It did not happen, thus; the lawsuit.
There is a lot that can be said about Amanda, both in her past and the way she currently operates her website, but you cannot claim, without proof, that she has fake traffic, or that she extorts people. Against my own interests, I will stand up for her when baseless & wrong accusations are stated. Even though I know these favors will never be returned. =)
-With gratitude, Nicholas Boccio Founder of PennyBurners
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- on Fri 17 Feb 2012
- 02:54:02 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
pennyburners.com is even a bigger scam than PAW. They promote anyone who pays them no matter if it a good site or not. It is laughable how these two idiots have decided they are the regulators of penny auctions.
Truly laughable.
Untrue on many levels...A quick, foreword...
Amanda and I are not friends, and in fact, I think it's safe to say that she hates me (even though my feelings towards her are closer to indifference/no feelings). However, I would not let my personal feelings cloud my judgment here. She has wronged a lot of people, and I may be one of the only people she has ever apologized to for such a wrong doing... However...I don't believe that Amanda has "fake traffic", as it has been falling considerably in the last few months, which I think is why she decided to remove that information from the forum home page. The information showed how many people were online, and how many members were signed in.
For the record, you can still see the information here http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/forum/online.php (must be logged in to view)
I don't think it's fair to say she begged either. She did what Patrick (administrator of MyWOT) would have told her to do if she complained about the poor ratings. "Ask your audience to rate you."
I did not take this approach, because I do not only care about my site's reputation, but that of the entire industry. I am here to slowly, and surely, inform the MyWOT community that they are wrong on their view that the penny auction industry is a giant scam. This is what justified them in creating and voting on the Mass Rating Tool list where both PennyAuctionWatch and I (PennyBurners) were included, and thanks to Mr. g7w (Should I add the "Mr." I feel like I should =) ) we have both been removed as g7w understood that we inform people who wish to know about penny auctions.
If all of our members install the addon, they will see that "untrusted" message for _EVERY_ penny auction site they have been going to for years. This could definitely confuse users that know otherwise, and even create drama here in this community from thousands of people complaining about their favorite sites being listed poorly, based on a few wrong views.
Finally, the extortion claim has no merit. Is Amanda unreasonable? Yes. Will she ignore you if she is upset at you? Yes. Would she change her opinion of you if you offered her money? No. I'll even add a "hell no".
You don't have to take my word for it, either. Amanda has publicly removed paid-for sponsorship forums from her site if the penny auction site loses the trust of her community. We have done the same thing. SwipeAuctions (who are suing her for $18,000,000) tried to "encourage" her to remove the blog which lead to their law suit. I am sure that if she could have been bought, or intended on extorting penny auctions, that they would have been able to pay her whatever she asked. It did not happen, thus; the lawsuit.
There is a lot that can be said about Amanda, both in her past and the way she currently operates her website, but you cannot claim, without proof, that she has fake traffic, or that she extorts people. Against my own interests, I will stand up for her when baseless & wrong accusations are stated. Even though I know these favors will never be returned. =)
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- on Fri 17 Feb 2012
- 03:37:45 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
@OP =
I have reevaluated your site as what it is a scam
Rated and commented
You may want to read this article or maybe no
htxxtp://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-02-06-penny-auctions_N.htm
I found your site promoting penny auctions [ left remarks in the scorecard ] a far cry from what your site supposedly does -
Good bye
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- on Fri 17 Feb 2012
- 03:49:29 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
pennyburners.com is even a bigger scam than PAW. They promote anyone who pays them no matter if it a good site or not. It is laughable how these two idiots have decided they are the regulators of penny auctions.Truly laughable.
I see no argument here regarding my rebuttal of your claims against PAW. I also see no argument showing how PennyBurners is a scam, or that we receive money from "anyone who pays them."With that noted, I have nothing to say to you.
@OP =
I have reevaluated your site as what it is a scam
Rated and commented
You may want to read this article or maybe no
hxxttp://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-02-06-pe
I found your site promoting penny auctions [ left remarks in the scorecard ] a far cry from what your site supposedly does -
Good bye
If you believe that a website dedicated to warning internet users about the reputation of (good/bad/neutral) sites, regardless of the industry, is a scam; then you must also conclude that MyWOT is a scam.-With gratitude, Nicholas Boccio Founder of PennyBurners
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- on Fri 17 Feb 2012
- 07:16:15 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
You can't conclude WOT is a scam. It's just not logical. What you said to superhero is not logical!
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- on Fri 17 Feb 2012
- 07:38:19 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
You can't conclude WOT is a scam. It's just not logical. What you said to superhero is not logical!
Then it cannot be logical to say that PennyBurners or PAW are scams.If you don't think so, then please, argue your case instead of just making a statement followed with exclamation marks.
MyWOT helps people understand the reputation of websites.
PennyBurners & PAW both help people understand the reputation of websites, too. We just specialize in penny auctions.It really is that simple.
-With gratitude, Nicholas Boccio Founder of PennyBurners
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- on Fri 17 Feb 2012
- 09:52:20 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
[snip]
MyWOT helps people understand the reputation of websites.
PennyBurners & PAW both help people understand the reputation of websites, too. We just specialize in penny auctions.It really is that simple.
Agree!People should realize my opinions concerning penny auctions and when I find domains (active website or not) which are or "were" PA sites, I shall list them in the appropriate discussion.
However,
There are people who:- Never heard of WOT, thus they do not use it, never see warnings, etc.
- Are determined to join a PA site and participate.
- curious folk
- people who believe in getting something for "near nothing"
- Gamblers, or people with gambling addictions
PennyAuctionWatch and PennyBurners provide a useful service for those folks who participate, or are interested in participating, in a penny auction. Together with the people who make up their communities, they distinguish the "bad" from the "good" in the penny auction world, even though PAW and PB may have different opinions on those PA sites, they non the less provide a service to lurkers.
I would rather have both PAW and PB encourage their users to also become WOT users - active users meaning: they rate their local government, school, retail ("mom and pop shops"), favorite sites they routinely visit on the Web, as well as their experience with penny auctions. WOT requires activity to discern trust in the user, then the user is no longer "new" and their ratings carry some weight (count). Who knows, maybe some of the domains listed in the PA thread will become green, or maybe the yellow ones will turn dark red - it all depends on how people rate these sites and the more ratings, the higher the confidence for those ratings resulting with a more accurate reputation (whether I or "you" may disagree with it).
------- WOT Services Ltd. - gives us safety through Web of Trust. WOT Community - gives us security through unity. ∞
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- on Fri 17 Feb 2012
- 10:42:03 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
You can't conclude WOT is a scam. It's just not logical. What you said to superhero is not logical!
Thank you for your vote of confidence
A few months ago , something like this took place with Canadian pharmacies in particular with a Pharmacy checker that was supposed to " help " distinguish between good illegal pharmacies and bad illegal ones
Only three people , made their stand with negative ratings as they deserved , I was one of the three
I cannot prevent a site from becoming fully green , but I stand for my conviction
Only time will tell , also the fact that users will disagree in some ratings shows that WOT ratings cannot be manipulated , which is a good thing
I agree with the idea of having more people rate sites as it will give many sites the opportunity of having a better trust rate in the scorecards
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- on Fri 17 Feb 2012
- 11:05:33 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
g7w, a million thanks, sir! =)
SuperHero58,
I understand your conviction. The Canadian pharmacy issues should not be a reflection on me, PAW, or the penny auction industry. I respect your decision, however. (I did my best =) )To finish this topic, or at least my involvement as PAW is not my site, my goal was to inform the current community, so that when I introduce my community to MyWOT, they would not get confused. (As I stated earlier)
I realize that setting a goal of changing everyone's opinions is not a reasonable one. Monday, I will make a front page article, explaining the MyWOT community, and why the sites are listed the way they are. I will do my best to explain how things work and encourage users to use the add-on on their favorite penny auction sites, and any other sites they go to. My new goal will be to encourage my traffic to help properly rate the penny auction sites, so that MyWOT, as a system, will be a more accurate and useful one.
-With gratitude, Nicholas Boccio Founder of PennyBurners
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- on Sat 18 Feb 2012
- 01:47:35 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
Pennyburners has nothing to say because I am right. You promote Penny auction sites that pay you. This is very simple to see. You are a typical bottom feeder in any industry that is making a profit from your "cause".
You can not be unbiased while you collect money from websites that you are unbiased against.
Pennyburners and Penny Auction Watch promotes collusion and cheating Penny Auction websites. You can not defend this as it is everywhere in your forum for the world to see.
The SCAM is professional bidders team up to win penny auctions for next to nothing making sure the website never can make a profit. There is zero chance that any business can survive that takes a loss 100% of the time.
The SCAM is Pennburners only wants to make money off the industry by any means. It hides as being good for the industry which is a SCAM and a business model to make money.
The real funny part is your attempt to defend Amanda and pennyauctionwatch.com when you have invested years trying to tear her down. Again the proof of this is on both your websites.
You can not take money from anyone and remain unbiased. The MOB invented this business model years ago.
Penny auctions can be honest and a lot of fun if it were not for the users of Pennyburners and PAW working together to cheat the websites and industry.
What a joke.
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- on Sat 18 Feb 2012
- 05:40:54 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
Pennyburners has nothing to say because I am right. You promote Penny auction sites that pay you. This is very simple to see. You are a typical bottom feeder in any industry that is making a profit from your "cause".You can not be unbiased while you collect money from websites that you are unbiased against.
Pennyburners and Penny Auction Watch promotes collusion and cheating Penny Auction websites. You can not defend this as it is everywhere in your forum for the world to see.
The SCAM is professional bidders team up to win penny auctions for next to nothing making sure the website never can make a profit. There is zero chance that any business can survive that takes a loss 100% of the time.
The SCAM is Pennburners only wants to make money off the industry by any means. It hides as being good for the industry which is a SCAM and a business model to make money.
The real funny part is your attempt to defend Amanda and pennyauctionwatch.com when you have invested years trying to tear her down. Again the proof of this is on both your websites.
You can not take money from anyone and remain unbiased. The MOB invented this business model years ago.
Penny auctions can be honest and a lot of fun if it were not for the users of Pennyburners and PAW working together to cheat the websites and industry.
What a joke.
You have a point there.
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- on Sat 18 Feb 2012
- 05:42:48 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
Pennyburners has nothing to say because I am right. You promote Penny auction sites that pay you. This is very simple to see. You are a typical bottom feeder in any industry that is making a profit from your "cause".You can not be unbiased while you collect money from websites that you are unbiased against.
Pennyburners and Penny Auction Watch promotes collusion and cheating Penny Auction websites. You can not defend this as it is everywhere in your forum for the world to see.
The SCAM is professional bidders team up to win penny auctions for next to nothing making sure the website never can make a profit. There is zero chance that any business can survive that takes a loss 100% of the time.
The SCAM is Pennburners only wants to make money off the industry by any means. It hides as being good for the industry which is a SCAM and a business model to make money.
The real funny part is your attempt to defend Amanda and pennyauctionwatch.com when you have invested years trying to tear her down. Again the proof of this is on both your websites.
You can not take money from anyone and remain unbiased. The MOB invented this business model years ago.
Penny auctions can be honest and a lot of fun if it were not for the users of Pennyburners and PAW working together to cheat the websites and industry.
What a joke.
Where is this proof you speak of? You were wrong about what you said, and I pointed it out. You could not conjure up an argument, thus I had nothing else to say to you.
Now you say I have invested years in trying to tear her down, which you will also fail to prove. I do disagree with how she operates, which is why I have my own forum. However, I have defended her anytime someone has falsely claimed something about her. I can disagree with someone, but still stand up for the truth - a concept I can see which may be alien to you.
The SCAM is Pennburners only wants to make money off the industry by any means. It hides as being good for the industry which is a SCAM and a business model to make money.
Why not prove this? Try to send me money. I mean, if I am in this just for the profit, then it should be easy to prove it, right? You will find that without a 3+ hour interview, answering questions about the industry & confirming that you have done your due diligence as a site owner, and passing my own "gut check" you will not become a sponsor on PennyBurners, and I will never give you the option of sending me money.Like I explained with PAW, I have removed sponsored sites from PennyBurners once they stopped upholding the standards we require. This is the same policy MyWOT has with people who pay to use the MyWOT seal. If you lose your green rating, no amount of money will get it back.
I feel you are doing a great job of showing your emotional bias that I have little need to continue to prove you to be a liar. Clearly PAW upset you somehow, and instead of addressing any legitimate concerns you have with what happened, you are just here to spam this forum with baseless claims. Develop a coherent argument, and post it. If it has merit, I am sure others will be interested. Until then, take it light. =)
-With gratitude, Nicholas Boccio Founder of PennyBurners
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- on Sat 18 Feb 2012
- 05:44:58 AM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
You have a point there.
Really? I wasn't able to find it. Could you please single it out, and explain it for me?-With gratitude, Nicholas Boccio Founder of PennyBurners
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- on Sat 18 Feb 2012
- 11:02:04 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
Insulting other members will NOT be tolerated. Please keep this in mind when replying or you'll find yourself banned (you know who you are)
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- on Sat 18 Feb 2012
- 11:10:03 PM UTC
RE: pennyauctionwatch.com
Pennyburners has nothing to say because I am right. You promote Penny auction sites that pay you. This is very simple to see. You are a typical bottom feeder in any industry that is making a profit from your "cause".You can not be unbiased while you collect money from websites that you are unbiased against.
Pennyburners and Penny Auction Watch promotes collusion and cheating Penny Auction websites. You can not defend this as it is everywhere in your forum for the world to see.
The SCAM is professional bidders team up to win penny auctions for next to nothing making sure the website never can make a profit. There is zero chance that any business can survive that takes a loss 100% of the time.
The SCAM is Pennburners only wants to make money off the industry by any means. It hides as being good for the industry which is a SCAM and a business model to make money.
The real funny part is your attempt to defend Amanda and pennyauctionwatch.com when you have invested years trying to tear her down. Again the proof of this is on both your websites.
You can not take money from anyone and remain unbiased. The MOB invented this business model years ago.
Penny auctions can be honest and a lot of fun if it were not for the users of Pennyburners and PAW working together to cheat the websites and industry.
What a joke.
You obviously know nothing about what you are speaking of.
Nick is highly respected by bidders in the penny auction industry and has a passion for helping people out.
I am one of the more well known and respected bidders in the industry and can vouch for Nick and his site and advice that I have received from him and users of his site.
Pennyburners and Pennyauctonwatch provide a service to the industry that is much needed.
These forums need to be used further especially by penny auction site owners to better connect with the bidding community.
pennyauctionwatch.com
Site URL: http://pennyauctionwatch.com
Scorecard: View scorecard
Introduction:
Hello,
In early 2009 I came across pay-per bid auctions popularly known as penny auctions. I won a few items then was ripped off by a blatant scam site that had automated scripted fake robotic/programmed bidders. I was very furious to see nothing was being done about these sites that take consumer's hard earned money, there was no accountability. So I set out to learn how to start a blog and a forum for consumers to come together and post their experiences and reviews and also provide a platform for me to publish news of what is the good, the bad and the ugly in online penny auctions.
It is a very cutthroat industry rife with scam artists.
Back when I started my site not many people knew about penny auctions, it didn't seem as if the media had heard much about them nor has the government looked into them. They have over the past 1.5 years finally started to look into them. One site's operator, which I investigated on and was the first to expose, is actually now being sued for $500 million in alleged consumer fraud by the Federal Trade Commission.
The negative reviews that have been left under my WOT page are completely false. Some say my site is a scam affiliate marketing blog, which I am not, others falsely state that I own or have interest in online penny auctions which I do not. I am just a bidder of penny auctions who saw the need to create a resource and educate/warn consumers.
Others say my site is phishing, or other scam, stating falsely that it is a penny auction site when it is indeed a blog and forum and nothing else. I do not scam consumers. I do not even take money from consumers. My forum and blog is a free resource.
I have been interviewed and mentioned by a number of news media including but not limited to radio, TV, print and online. You can find mentions of me and my website, pennyauctionwatch.com in Time Magazine, Wired.com, on CBS, ABC news, WCCO MN, FOX News, Wall Street Journal, Mint.com's blog, RetailMeNot.com's blog, WalletPop by AOL, Consumer Reports: TV and online, The Denver Post, Reuters.
I have exposed a number of shady/scam penny auction sites and have even posted proof of scams, shill bidding and failure to ship items to consumers among other concerns.
I do sell advertising on my site and use google adwords, but I have blocked ads from Google that I and others have found to be dishonest and have even refunded money and pulled advertisements for websites that I have found to be defrauding consumers.
I respectfully request that you please re-evaluate my Web of Trust score and even investigate the IP addresses of the users who have posted the false reviews - notice how some are very close together in date.
I have come under attack from a number of individuals who my site has exposed and competitors who wanted to tarnish my reputation. Just this week I experience a Distributed Denial of Service attack (DDoS) on my website, this is a very cutthroat industry Online and consumers need to be warned, that is what I try my best to do.
Thank you very much.
Has privacy policy?
http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/privacy/
Has a way for users to contact site owners?
http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/contact-us/
Whois Information:
http://whois.domaintools.com/pennyauctionwatch.com
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