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- on Sat 11 Apr 2009
- 06:02:42 AM UTC
newest domain
verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.info
nicht-abzocken.vsi-warnung.eu
vorsicht-falle.vsi-warnung.eu -
- on Sat 11 Apr 2009
- 01:11:42 PM UTC
Danke Soran
Thanks for the additional domains. You don't happen to know some of Marta Barabachs domains too..?
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- on Mon 13 Apr 2009
- 04:01:14 PM UTC
domains found
I have found 7 of her domains:
01k0409-komplettpaket.tagesangebot-heimarbeit.eu
offizielle-mailbearbeitung.eu
servicesupport24.eu
europaeische-email-verarbeitung.eu
heimarbeit-stellenmarkt.eu
geld-mine.de
http://www.geld-verdienen-mit-heimarbeiten.dethe content of this sites are all about "how to earn money in the internet". If you are following these you have to pay (25€-90€) for it and you can sell it to other peoples if you are doing some advertisment. People are acting than like human Spambots. There are different offerings to order ebooks. If you are following you will increase some click rates. What does this means for Google Adsense ? Has anybody a glue about it?
Hey found here also some folks who wanna pay people to read advertisment. 6€ per hour. Unbelivable.
regards
soran -
- on Mon 13 Apr 2009
- 01:52:54 PM UTC
Re Domains
You are a brave bloke Soran.Especially as you fall under German laws that we do not.All noted.Thanks.(G.O.M.with Honours).
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- on Mon 13 Apr 2009
- 03:14:01 PM UTC
google
I have got this information simply from google. Everybody can gain this information with the right key words. Didn't think that is against any german law as long as I didn't add any comment. Then the situation can become a little bit different at the moment.
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- on Mon 13 Apr 2009
- 01:56:31 PM UTC
Domains
Thank you soran.
Sadly this sort of thing is quite common in getting users to pay for garbage that promises them 'easy money' but it never happens.
But, as they are related to Born & associates it would appear to be another money-making scam for them.
From what I can make out, Marta Barabachs is Marco Borns girlfriend or is related in some way? -
- on Mon 13 Apr 2009
- 03:13:09 PM UTC
girlfriend
This is currently not clear for me if they have got a relationship but they are acting together.
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- on Sun 12 Apr 2009
- 12:54:21 AM UTC
Another Domain! Update!!
ht*p://www.verbraucherschutz-im-internet.eu
ht*p://gemeinnuetziger.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.de
ht*p://gute-frage-serioese-antwort.euVerbraucherschutz im Internet. www.nicht-abzocken.eu
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- on Sun 12 Apr 2009
- 12:22:03 AM UTC
Thank you
Thank you Nicht-Abzocken for your valued assistance :-)
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- on Sun 12 Apr 2009
- 12:25:43 AM UTC
That's not the end
New day new domain lol!
Verbraucherschutz im Internet. www.nicht-abzocken.eu
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- on Sun 12 Apr 2009
- 12:26:22 AM UTC
more somewhere
there are more, somewhere:
Registrant Search: "Verbraucherschutz-Internet" owns about 14 other domains
Keep them coming I'm keeping a simple text list of just the domain names.
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http://g7w.net/ -
- on Sun 12 Apr 2009
- 05:32:18 AM UTC
Tired
Was rating them one-by-one, then just decided to use that mass rating tool for the first time. Don't like to use that thing, but made an exception for Born! . . . and I think this is a good example of the virtues of that tool. It certainly saved me a lot of time.
Did mass ratings based on the first post here, but see that more have been added in other posts in this thread.
Is much too tedious to do one-by-one. but I think I did about 8 that way and caught another 24 or so with the mass rating tool.
So, if your list is updated with each post in this thread, Dave, it might be worth another post sooner or later.
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- on Sun 12 Apr 2009
- 12:47:50 PM UTC
list
Phantazm started this thread, so he would have to edit his starting topic.
I PM'ed him requesting to remove the http://www. and list solely by domain name
much easier to copy/paste that way.
Also easier to append with additional domains when they're listed.
I see he has not done so :(-------
Against Intuition - gives us safety through Web of Trust.
WOT Community - gives us security through unity.
Thank you all
G7W {G.O.M}
http://g7w.net/ -
- on Sun 12 Apr 2009
- 02:42:23 PM UTC
Eidited now
I've edited the list now, and included the new entries.
As the list grows, it also becomes increasingly timeconsuming to check if a domain is already listed. Partly because the final list probably will include more than a hundred domains, partly because many of the domains are identical except the tld. Furthermore thare are subdomains mentioned as well. Therefore I've sorted the list alphabetically, and grouped variations. Hope it helps...?
Looks like there are to possibile ways of rating:
One by one as new entries appear, or...
Massrate them all, when the list is final. -
- on Sun 12 Apr 2009
- 03:03:26 PM UTC
thanks
no longer need my personal text file.
for any future entries...
maybe just add to bottom of existing list; otherwise we'll have to sort what's been rated from what needs to be. :-)
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G7W {G.O.M}
http://g7w.net/ -
- on Mon 13 Apr 2009
- 05:07:43 AM UTC
Mass rating tool quetion
I haven't used that "mass rating tool" except for this one time for this Born moron.
So if I use it again for multiple Born sites that are added, what would happen if there was a duplicate in there that I already had rated with the mass rating tool? I assume the new rating and comment, which would be the same as the old but maybe not exactly, would just over write.
But if it makes additional ratings and comments, essentially double, well . . . couldn't happen to a nicer guy anyway.
The only concern I would have is if rating and comments were erased and nothing replaced them.
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- on Mon 13 Apr 2009
- 01:03:33 PM UTC
Yes
Hey xxz,
As I said, I really don't care if it over writes 'cause I'll rate the Born stuff essentially the same as I have (BTW, I've seen that check box) . . . I just want to make sure it doesn't erase and leave blank the ones that I have rated. It doesn't does it?
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- on Mon 13 Apr 2009
- 01:08:56 PM UTC
Mass Rating
Got the Gatling gun ready and waiting.All oiled up and primed to go.(G.O.M.with Honours).
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- on Tue 14 Apr 2009
- 09:37:25 PM UTC
reconnaissance
ok guys, stay up here. I will go on reconnaissance tour to clear up the area. I will inform you if something is changing on the current situation. Well done. Hope we can get back mischaccc.
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- on Tue 14 Apr 2009
- 09:53:15 PM UTC
Tour
Good luck soran and hopefully mischaccc will be able to return :-)
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- on Tue 14 Apr 2009
- 11:07:48 PM UTC
Good luck Soran..!
Good luck with your reconnaissance tour. I've been busy with other things these last days, but I haven't forgotten this thread, so I'll be back tomorrow with more. In the meantime, sleep well...
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- on Sat 06 Jun 2009
- 04:24:34 PM UTC
THE RUNNING LIST...
SATURDAY 8 JUNE
Born:
abzocke-news.info
abzocke-news.netabzocken.eu
- nicht-mehr.abzocken.euakte-abzocker.info
top10-topliste.de
- geld-verdienen.top10-topliste.deverbraucherschutz-im-internet.de
verbraucherschutz-im-internet.net- amtsgericht-krefeld-erlaesst-weitere.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.eu
- erfolgreich-gegen-diffamierungen.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.eu
- rat-und-hilfe-bei-abzocke.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.eu
- wot-against-intuition-inc-abgemahnt.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.euMarta:
- globalfx-glo-mail-gegen-abzocke.glo-mail.eu
kostenloser-preis-vergleich.de
offizielle-emailbearbeitung.eu
- hilfeprogramm.offizielle-emailbearbeitung.eurealxxl.de
- internetarbeit.realxxl.de----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
FRIDAY 8 MAY
Marta:
offizielle-emailbearbeitung.ch
glo-mail.at
glo-mail.ch
glo-mail.de
glo-mail.co.uk
glo-mail.es
glo-mail.nlAffiliates:
hanka15971.beepworld.de
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SUNDAY 26 APRIL
Marco:
vorsicht-fallen.forenbetrug.info
internet.fallen.tvConnected:
nebenverdienst-info.over-blog.de
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SUNDAY 19 APRIL
oldnag: Over last few days Born and Barabach
are trying to escape MYWOT by switching their domains to
https://ssl-id.de/geld-verdienen-mit-heimarbeit.eu...
and so on. The rating is therefore restricted to ssl-id.de only!!!Inconclusive domains:
number-xy.tv - untested !!!
geldquellen-online.de ("Wolfgang Richter" owns about 78 other domains)
beepworld.de ("David Finkenstädt" owns about 11 other domains)
alternative-geld.de (Reno Hamann)
How are these domains connected to either Marco or Marta..?Related Links:
Logicman: After Marco Born attacked WOT,
this was picked up by a consumer advice site:
www.abofalle.netMarta:
geld-verdienen-mit-heimarbeit.eu
geld-verdienen-als-testperson.eu
tagesangebot-heimarbeit.de
- 01k0109-spezial.tagesangebot-heimarbeit.de
tagesangebot-heimarbeit.eu
- 01k0109-komplettpaket.tagesangebot-heimarbeit.euMarco:
The Lawyer of Marco Born: http://pnw.de/neuber.html
Felicita:
Felicita Born is the sister of Marco Born.
Frank Born is the father of Marco and Felicita.
Marta Barabach is Frank Borns girlfriend.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MONDAY 13 APRIL
Marco:
gute-frage-serioese-antwort.eu
- gemeinnuetziger.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.deMarta:
geld-mine.de
heimarbeit-stellenmarkt.eu
- 01k0409-komplettpaket.tagesangebot-heimarbeit.eu
offizielle-mailbearbeitung.eu
servicesupport24.eu
tagesangebot-heimarbeit.eu -
- on Thu 16 Apr 2009
- 11:55:46 AM UTC
newest domain
The first seems to be user who as bought the training packet and is following the instructions.
hanka15971.beepworld.de
geld-verdienen-mit-heimarbeit.eu
geldquellen-online.de
alternative-geld.de
geld-verdienen-mit-heimarbeit.euThe meaning is allways the same earn money with a job at home.
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- on Thu 16 Apr 2009
- 07:13:14 PM UTC
re: newest domain [born related]
Rated and commented
Thanks. :-)
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G7W {G.O.M}
http://g7w.net/ -
- on Sun 19 Apr 2009
- 02:18:20 PM UTC
Who is who..?
How are these domains related, to either Marco or Marta..?
geldquellen-online.de
"Wolfgang Richter" owns about 78 other domainsbeepworld.de
"David Finkenstädt" owns about 11 other domainsalternative-geld.de
Reno HamannLooks as if they are owned by other people.
Where's the connection..? -
- on Sun 19 Apr 2009
- 07:00:35 PM UTC
in bad company
"Marco Born and Company"
Aren't they part of "company" ?
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G7W {G.O.M}
http://g7w.net/ -
- on Sun 19 Apr 2009
- 08:44:27 PM UTC
Hard to say
but geldquellen-online.de and alternative-geld.de seems to be for me victims of the fraud. The content is the same Marta advised to put on the homepage. Hard to belive that somebody with a master degree is not able to detect this trick.
beepworld.de is free homepage service with 3,8 Mio subscribers which will be named in ebook package she is selling for 25 bugs.
Never or less the first two sites should be rated red to finish this story.
The complete list of Marco Borns sites
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Introduction to the Born group
Marco Borns domains
Marta Barabachs domains
Partners and affiliates
Rating in further fora
Related links
Inconclusive domains
The Running List...
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Introduction to the Born group
Marco Born:
Behind numerous private 'consumer protection sites', however
The verbraucherschutz internet verein is not a legal association
as it is not registered by any german court. (The one and only site
of consumer protection in germany is www.vzbv.de/go/ )
He is also advocating globalfx, Martas pyramid sites.
Marco Born is also a former WOT user aka "Axtey". Here he noticed several negative remarks about his own sites, especially mischaccc: "Be careful on this site! This is not the original site of the german consumer protection and rate website like safe gutefrage.net dangerous. Do not trust them!".
Through his laywer he sent a letter with a cost note of 775€. Since mischaccc is only 15 years it's understandable that he panicked, paid and retreated: He is no longer a member of WOT, all his comments deleted. His own website betrugshilfe.jimdo.com is closed.
It looks more and more like mischaccc was completely right from the beginning. But for a while the whole issue remained clouded by cultural diifferences and language barriers...
Mr. Born in the local newspaper of Augsburg: augsburger-allgemeine.de
Felicita Born:
Felicita Born is the sister of Marco Born.
Bookkeeper for Marta Barabach.
Marta Barabach is Frank Borns girlfriend.
Frank Born:
Father of Marco and Felicita.
Living with Marta Barabach.
Marta Barabach:
Augsburg prosecution investigates suspicion of fraud among other things. More...
Operates a pyramid chain of 'Get rich from homework' sites.
Girlfriend of Frank Born.
Andreas Neuber :
Lawyer of Marco Born: http://pnw.de/neuber.html
Sources:
The material collected here refers to this and these two WOT threads:
WOT attacked
Threaten with a lawsuite because of WOT comments
Please look in the original posts for documentation and links to further information...
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Marco Borns domains
akte-abzocker.info
aktenzeichen-xy.tv
abzocken.eu
- nicht-mehr.abzocken.eu
abzocke-news.info
abzocke-news.net
eci-europa.eu
fallen.tv
- internet.fallen.tv
forenbetrug.info
- vorsicht-fallen.forenbetrug.info
gute-frage-serioese-antwort.eu
konsumentenschutz-internet.at
konsumentenschutz-internet.ch
konsumentenschutz-internet.de
konsumentenschutz-internet.eu
konsumentenschutz-internet.info
marco-born.eu
nicht-abzocken.tv
top10-topliste.de
- geld-verdienen.top10-topliste.de
verbraucherschutz-europa.eu
verbraucherschutz-im-internet.eu
verbraucherschutz-arbeitsamt.eu
verbraucherschutz-heimarbeit.eu
verbraucherschutz-internet.com
verbraucherschutz-internet.eu
- maximilian-maher.verbraucherschutz-internet.eu
verbraucherschutz-internet.info
verbraucherschutz-internet.net
verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.de
- gemeinnuetziger.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.de
verbraucherschutz-internet.at
verbraucherschutz-internet.ch
verbraucherschutz-internet.de
verbraucherschutz-internet.eu
- maximilian-maher.verbraucherschutz-internet.eu
verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.de
- gemeinnuetziger.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.de
verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.eu
- amtsgericht-krefeld-erlaesst-weitere.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.eu
- erfolgreich-gegen-diffamierungen.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.eu
- rat-und-hilfe-bei-abzocke.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.eu
- wot-against-intuition-inc-abgemahnt.verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.eu
verbraucherschutz-internet-verein.info
verbraucherschutz-im-internet.de
verbraucherschutz-im-internet.net
vorsicht-falle.info
vorsicht-falle.tv
vsi-warnung.eu
- nicht-abzocken.vsi-warnung.eu
- vorsicht-falle.vsi-warnung.eu
This incomplete list is alphabetically sorted, variations grouped, subdomains marked with: -
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Marta Barabachs domains
email-bearbeitung.eu
europaeische-email-verarbeitung.eu
- offizielle.europaeische-email-verarbeitung.eu
geld-mine.de
geld-verdienen-als-testperson.eu
geld-verdienen-mit-heimarbeit.eu
geld-verdienen-mit-heimarbeiten.de
global-fx.info
globalfx.nl
glo-mail.at
glo-mail.ch
glo-mail.com
glo-mail.co.uk
glo-mail.de
glo-mail.es
glo-mail.eu
- erst-ansehen-dann-kaufen.glo-mail.eu
- globalfx-glo-mail-gegen-abzocke.glo-mail.eu
glo-mail.info
glo-mail.nl
heimarbeit-nebenjob-minijob.de
heimarbeit-stellenmarkt.eu
kostenloser-preis-vergleich.de
offizielle-emailbearbeitung.ch
offizielle-emailbearbeitung.eu
- hilfeprogramm.offizielle-emailbearbeitung.eu
offizielle-mailbearbeitung.eu
realxxl.de
- internetarbeit.realxxl.de
servicesupport24.eu
tagesangebot-heimarbeit.de
- 01k0109-spezial.tagesangebot-heimarbeit.de
tagesangebot-heimarbeit.eu
- 01k0109-komplettpaket.tagesangebot-heimarbeit.eu
- 01k0409-komplettpaket.tagesangebot-heimarbeit.eu
This incomplete list is alphabetically sorted, variations grouped, subdomains marked with: -
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Partners and affiliates
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These sites are probably connected, but take a look and make up your own mind:
gerry-schotter.blogspot.com
blog.marketing-constructor.de
leicht-geld-verdienen.npage.de
hanka15971.beepworld.de
nebenverdienst-info.over-blog.de - Partner
alternative-geld.de - promoter of global-fx.de - may be a partner.
geldquellen-online.de - Definitely a Marco Born partner / affiliate.
Owned by "Wolfgang Richter" who also has 78 other domains.
beepworld.de is a service offering a free homepage service. In the e-books Marta Barach sells this service is discribed as a possibility to create your own, free homepage to advertise the Born crap.
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Rating in further fora
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How about rating these sites elsewhere too?
Siteadvisor.com - from McAfee
openDNS - behind PhishTank.com
AboutUs - wiki link at DomainTools
Wikipedia - The global dictionary
More..?
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Related links
www.vsi-warnung.de - not to be confused with vsi-warnung.eu
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www.abofalle.net
www.nicht-abzocken.eu - not to be confused with nicht-abzocken.tv
www.nicht-abzocken.org - not to be confused with nicht-abzocken.tv
http://www.nicht-abzocken.info - not to be confused with nicht-abzocken.tv
www.vzbv.de/go/ - the one and only site of consumer protection in germany.
Googles Translate and Yahoos BabelFish - Auto Translation
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Inconclusive domains
number-xy.tv is yet unused...
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark, Scandinavia, Europe. Languages: Danish, English (and a bit Norwegian and Swedish).