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    • g7w on Mon 25 May 2009
    • 02:03:55 AM UTC

    subdomain question - "www."

    My web host asked me how I want my domain(s) to resolve and gave me a choice of:
    with "www"
    no "www"
    both with and without "www" <= my selection

    I notice that some domains require the subdomain "www." to reslove; an example
    hxxp://www.tagged.com.edgesuite.net/ = web page.
    hxxp://tagged.com.edgesuite.net/ = DNS error - no site found

    WOT Scorecards treats
    example.com
    www.example.com
    as the same thing
    whereas
    www2.example.com is different.

    should WOT be treating parent (example.com) separate from child (www.example.com) as well?
    at least for domains that do not resolve without the www. prefix or those rare cases where including "www." results with error.
    maybe a simple ping test would suffice - if resolved, create/display scorecard if not, then display error: site not found and with mass rating, include sub2.sub1.domain to unable to rate, "error: site name list"

    This would be especially helpful (required?) when both resolve but with different IP's:
    www.example.com resolves to IP: 127.0.0.1
    example.com resolves to 192.168.0.0

    where one IP might be dedicated and the other located on a public / shared server.
    the shared IP results with 403 error or a default server welcome page and
    the dedicated IP loads the site.

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    • Catcha on Mon 25 May 2009
    • 03:35:55 AM UTC

    I don't think so, no.

    Well, you couldn't have two sites with the same domain (regardless of the prefix). So it doesn't really matter if WOT treats "www.example.com" as "example.com".

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      • g7w on Mon 25 May 2009
      • 04:27:11 AM UTC

      and when they each use different IP's?

      Links open robtex.com = safe

      This is not blacklisted
      www.tagged.com = IP: 209.18.41.40

      This IS blacklisted
      tagged.com = IP: 67.221.174.30

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        • Sami on Wed 27 May 2009
        • 03:54:25 PM UTC

        Re: and when they each use different IP's?

        That doesn't really matter, because the owner of the domain also controls the www subdomain. Since the www subdomain is commonly used as an alias for the main website hosted on the domain, we believe they should also share the reputation.

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      • MysteryFCM on Thu 04 Jun 2009
      • 01:29:56 PM UTC

      Err ....

      Actually yes, you could. If you so wanted, domain.com and www.domain.com could be two entirely different sites (e.g. the homepage and support site). It's not very common for legit sites to do this, but not uncommon for malicious sites to do such.

      Regards
      Steven Burn
      Ur I.T. Mate Group / hpHosts
      it-mate.co.uk / hosts-file.net

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        • phantazm on Thu 04 Jun 2009
        • 06:04:42 PM UTC

        Sites vs. sites

        "It's not very common for legit sites to do this,
        but not uncommon for malicious sites to do such."

        Indeed! There is such a difference,
        and we ought to deal with it...

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    • phantazm on Wed 27 May 2009
    • 11:11:07 AM UTC

    Fake subdomain..?

    To list a third possibility: What if someone use "www" as a fake subdomain..?

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      • Sami on Wed 27 May 2009
      • 03:54:46 PM UTC

      Re: Fake subdomain..?

      What's a fake subdomain?

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        • phantazm on Thu 04 Jun 2009
        • 12:47:49 PM UTC

        Fake sub 1

        By "fake subdomain" I mean a subdomain that pretends it isn't 'sub' but 'main'.
        Like this: www.paypal.com.st.st/123456789/theusualmumbojumbo/...

        ST is one of the rare domains that few know about.
        Doubling ST just adds to the confusion...

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        • phantazm on Thu 04 Jun 2009
        • 12:49:00 PM UTC

        Fake sub 2

        Another example, how about this one: vvvvvv.example.com..?
        Take a closer look at "vvvvvv"; it is actually "v v v v v v".
        Thus it's a subdomain, but who'll find out..?

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      • utopiamassageheal... on Thu 28 May 2009
      • 06:12:31 AM UTC

      Subdomain Name

      Utopia Massage has changed domain names for ease and accessibility.

      Utopia offers a wide range of services and invites you to a free session. We honor the pathway of healing for each individual to Bless people with our intuitive knowledge and balance of Essence,

      Namaste

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        • BobJam (not verified) on Thu 28 May 2009
        • 07:37:26 AM UTC

        Hmmmm . . .

        Spam? Or just some gratuitous advertising?

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    • YoKenny on Fri 05 Jun 2009
    • 10:45:16 PM UTC

    I don't get any alert from avast! on this topic

    I don't get any alert from avast! on this topic so how can it be IE8's problem?

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      • g7w on Sat 06 Jun 2009
      • 02:52:31 AM UTC

      of course not

      Subject is about Avira warning while using IE8, not Avira and using another browser, or using another AV with IE8.
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      • YoKenny on Sat 06 Jun 2009
      • 05:20:51 AM UTC

      Why don't I get an alert on this topic then?

      Why don't I get an alert on this topic then?

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        • g7w on Sat 06 Jun 2009
        • 05:32:02 AM UTC

        because

        you are using avast not avira
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    • RonanKER on Fri 12 Jun 2009
    • 09:04:38 AM UTC

    www. or www666. should be just like other sub-domains

    I think :
    99,9% of www.domain.tld are equals to domain.tld
    99,0% of www666.domain.tld are equivalent to domain.tld
    90% of www.sub-dom.domain.tld are equals to sub-dom.domain.tld
    50% of www666.sub-dom.domain.tld are equivalent to sub-dom.domain.tld
    and the 50% else are malicious
    (50%+50% from the 0,1% case where www666. exists)

    we can imagine that www666 here can be replaced by any www[0-9]*...

    I think that we shouldn't simply consider these sub-domains like the parent domain, they can be different like any other sub-domain.