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    • g7w on Tue 30 Jun 2009
    • 04:41:28 AM UTC

    verycleanpc.com

    verycleanpc.com
    I've been hearing this one advertised on the radio...
    It has a mirror site:
    mycleanpc.com

    They both offer CyberDefender - virusTotal scan
    hpHosts did an evaluation back in 2007 (where's part 2?)

    So...
    Anyone know of any genuine malware / scareware / rogue complaint/associations for Cyberdefender? If so, we should rate these two sit4es red as well, maybe check into them a little more for other mirrors, subdomains, MX (spam check), etc.

    /me tired - time for bed :-)

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    • MysteryFCM on Tue 30 Jun 2009
    • 08:41:23 AM UTC

    ...

    "hpHosts did an evaluation back in 2007 (where's part 2?)"

    They disabled the keys they'd given me after I published part 1, so I was never able to do any follow ups :o(

    See also btw;

    http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2009/04/cyberdefender-...
    http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2009/03/cyberdefender-...
    http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2009/03/rogue-company-...

    Regards
    Steven Burn
    Ur I.T. Mate Group / hpHosts
    it-mate.co.uk / hosts-file.net

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    • shazza on Thu 04 Mar 2010
    • 04:57:55 PM UTC

    Sites directing to cyberdefender

    cleanpctoday.com
    cleanpcnow.com
    cleanpcnation.com
    doublemyspeed.com
    verycleanpc.com
    cyberdefender.com

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      • Jazspeak on Thu 04 Mar 2010
      • 04:44:34 PM UTC

      Clean PC?

      Why does anybody ever bother with sites that claim to clean your PC? There is enough legitimate software to clean your PC without having anything to do with any site that offers to clean your PC, especially those offering to clean or speed up your PC online.

      My advice to all WOT users (and other computer users) is to completely ignore all offers to clean or speed up your computer. If there are no takers for such offers then the crims will probably get bored and give up.

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        • BobJam (not verified) on Thu 04 Mar 2010
        • 06:00:57 PM UTC

        Agree, but . . .

        Yes, these types of sites generally are rogues or actually host malware. And your argument that there is "legitimate software" to do this (like CCleaner and Auslogics) is valid.

        However, to be "fair and unbiased" in ratings, WOT members must take a look at these sites and evaluate them. After all, would we want WOT to just flat out rate any site that is not mainstream and claims to "clean" or "speed up" your PC without even looking at the site? I can see that slam headline on WOT: "WOT users rate all sites that claim they "clean" a PC as bad just because they claim so, and WOT users don't even look at these sites". That may make some sense to do so, as you've argued, but I don't think we want WOT to be so charged.

        So, while your argument that sites that claim to clean your PC are valid, I think we still need to take a look at them.

        As far as using that crap (showing my bias already), I think Google is largely to blame. These sites generally are listed as "Sponsored Sites" and are always highlighted at the top or prominently displayed in a sidebar, and when a noob sees that stuff they click on it.

        (I don't think very many WOT users, if any, use that crap).

        I agree 100% that users should decline these "free scan" offers, but unfortunately this is not reality. On troubleshooting boards that I visit, I see a surprising number of users that are indeed duped by this nonsense.

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          • IssViews on Sat 06 Mar 2010
          • 03:10:22 AM UTC

          Quite true and to further

          Quite true and to further add to why they get duped, look at the spam issue. How many years has this been a problem where spam has become a household name yet we still hear of people opening the mail and many even responding to, or buying stuff from it.

          There is always two mugs ready to replace someone who has finally seen the light. Human nature, you tell them not to do it and they do it with more vigour.

          www.issviews.com for views and news of the starte of digital security. Add your comments/.feedback on your existing security software to help others choose what's right for them and what isn't. Read up on the latest rogue software and threats too.

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    • shazza on Thu 25 Mar 2010
    • 03:58:18 PM UTC

    More cyberdefender

    registrycleanertechnology.com
    maxmyspeed.com

    NB - Affiliates are spamming scorecards for the sites listed here & marking down red
    comments.

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      • IssViews on Sun 14 Mar 2010
      • 12:52:11 PM UTC

      Thanks for info :D Rated and

      Thanks for info :D Rated and commented.

      I just noticed that. It is not hard for malware sites to get back a green rep symbol by spamming good comments. IOBit did the same to stay out of the red.

      www.issviews.com for views and news of the starte of digital security. Add your comments/.feedback on your existing security software to help others choose what's right for them and what isn't. Read up on the latest rogue software and threats too.

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        • kbphoto615 on Sat 27 Nov 2010
        • 05:32:50 AM UTC

        new to the site

        I am new to the site, I was searching for information on this mycleanpc scam. I noticed your comment about Iobit. I installed IOBIT optimizers and anti-virus. I noticed problems with my pc after that, I also got a call from a "gold certified" microsoft employee two days after the install claiming my pc had viruses that they wanted to clean. I immedietly uninstalled it. But my computer has been sluggish sometimes ever since. Can someone point me in the right direction to clean it up? I have run online scan with Micro Trend. Also I use Avira free antivirus and maleware bytes to clean up malware. Any help would be appreciated.

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          • Jazspeak on Sat 27 Nov 2010
          • 05:01:40 PM UTC

          Re: "clean it up"

          I would suggest that you try using CCleaner to clean up the registry. You can also use CCleaner to check the startup programs and remove any that are unnecessary. It is also a good idea to use CCleaner to clean up the registry any time that you install or uninstall any software, otherwise the registry becomes clogged with useless entries that can slow down the computer.

          When you have used CCleaner then it would be a good idea to use Defraggler to defrag the system drive. It is remarkable just how much a defrag can speed up your computer, and you should defrag frequently. I usually defrag at least once per week but for most users once per month is probably enough.

          CCleaner and Defraggler are free (donationware) and can be safely downloaded either from Piriform or from FileHippo.

          ~Music is not just for the Masses~

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            • kbphoto615 on Sat 27 Nov 2010
            • 07:06:04 PM UTC

            I have CCleaner, and use it

            I have CCleaner, and use it daily. It runs automattically on startup. It's a great little program.

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              • Jazspeak on Sat 27 Nov 2010
              • 07:13:34 PM UTC

              @ kbphoto615

              You say "It runs automattically on startup" but it doesn't clean the registry automatically. You have to run the registry cleaner part of the program by opening CCleaner and clicking on the button marked "Registry". It is a great little program, as is Defraggler.

              ~Music is not just for the Masses~

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                • kbphoto615 on Sat 27 Nov 2010
                • 07:30:31 PM UTC

                Is windows system defragger

                Is windows system defragger not enough? Why download another program to defrag, I have never noticed problems with the one that comes installed on my Windows PC's. Also thankyou for the replies and help. I will run it manually from now on. Can you tell me what the wipe free space feature on CCleaner does? What exactly is wiping free space doing? Also is there anything thing else I can do to ensure IOBIT's not still slowing down my system? as I said before it is still sluggish, randomly non responsive programs that either take a minute to become responsive, or stop all together. I have removed all IOBIT products using Revo Uninstaller. But again, the laptop still slows up a bit sometimes, and it never used to do so. Thanks again for everyones help!

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                  • Jazspeak on Sat 27 Nov 2010
                  • 08:07:41 PM UTC

                  Re: Defrag

                  The Windows defrag is OK but doesn't seem to be as efficient as Defraggler at sorting out the occupancy of the data blocks. Also Defraggler give the user more options for types of defragging

                  Using CCleaner for wiping the free space just means that it overwrites the free space with random bits so that whatever was left on the free space cannot be recovered. It might be useful to wipe the free space after uninstalling software such as IOBit because it means that nothing remains of the software, and so it cannot reaccess any part of itself. Wiping the free space does take a lot longer than just using CCleaner to clean the drive in the usual way, so I wouldn't use it too often.

                  You might have already noticed that CCleaner gives options for secure deletion, located in Options\Settings. For general use it is good enough to use the DOD 5220.22-M (3 passes), and this means that CCleaner will overwrite deleted files three times to make sure that the deleted files cannot be recovered. There is an option to use NSA standard of 7 passes, and a further option for 35 passes but you really would have to be paranoid or in possession of state secrets to bother with these options.

                  ~Music is not just for the Masses~

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                    • kbphoto615 on Sun 28 Nov 2010
                    • 01:25:11 AM UTC

                    Jazspeak thankyou for your

                    Jazspeak thankyou for your assistance, and speedy responses. Defraggler is downloading now. I appreciate the help and I'm glad I joined this site, very informative, the site and it's memebers.. :)

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                    • peterbosch on Sun 10 Apr 2011
                    • 08:59:07 PM UTC

                    RE: Re: Defrag

                    Thanks Jazspeak.
                    This answers questions I also had since I had my old PC ( on XP and with CCleaner on it ) crashed and bought a new one that runs W7.
                    Now I use the steps - Extra - Options - Remove individual cookies.
                    That seemed functional to me now I have to get used to W7.

                    Raise the dike ! ! Or the internet gets flooded and ends up as a stinking swamp. / Message from the Dutch WOT embassy.

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          • g7w on Sun 28 Nov 2010
          • 03:42:46 AM UTC

          re: new to the site

          @ kbphoto615
          @ Jazspeak

          This forum and especially this topic: verycleanpc.com and related domains
          is not about kbphoto615's sluggish PC
          It is both rude and against Forum Guidelines to hijack a thread - Jazspeak knows this.
          My advice is to try a security forum centered around helping users such as www.bleepingcomputer.com

          ------- WOT Services Ltd. - gives us safety through Web of Trust. WOT Community - gives us security through unity. ∞

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            • Jazspeak on Sun 28 Nov 2010
            • 09:14:43 AM UTC

            @ g7w

            Of course it is not ideal to use this thread in that way but since a newbie asked for help, and since it wasn't really any trouble to provide that assistance, it would have been churlish to withhold that assistance. I think that kbphoto615's last response shows that by bending the rules I have presented WOT in a better light than if I, or anyone else, had immediately leapt on the newbie for breaking the forum guidelines. After the recent spate of abuses dished out by members who ought to know better I think WOT can do with all of the good press it can get.

            ~Music is not just for the Masses~

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              • g7w on Sun 28 Nov 2010
              • 09:49:02 AM UTC

              PM

              There is always contact via user board messages ...

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              • peterbosch on Sun 10 Apr 2011
              • 09:03:00 PM UTC

              RE: @ g7w

              Echo that, see my earlier comment.
              Okay, off topic. But no problem to me.

              Raise the dike ! ! Or the internet gets flooded and ends up as a stinking swamp. / Message from the Dutch WOT embassy.

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            • kbphoto615 on Sun 28 Nov 2010
            • 06:17:17 PM UTC

            sorry for being a newb :/

            Id like to apologize for hijacking the thread. I did start out and seek this thread for the main reason at first. After reading everyones posts I learned IOBIT is not a trustworthy company and I was just curious as to what precautions I need to take, and/or how to clean it up off my system. I did not mean to make it about cleaning up my sluggish system. But I do know better than to hijack a thread. :( Being new to the site though when I went to send a message or board post it would not let me post a second time so quickly. Now I know how to post on someones board, I will do that in the future before posting on a thread. Thanks again guys.

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      • g7w on Sun 14 Mar 2010
      • 03:01:07 PM UTC

      Page links:

      Page links: doublemyspeed.com
      robtex for those who have yet to rate the hosts sharing A-Records

      Also the email address that points to a currently parked domain, but it should be rated as well
      registry-cleaner-technology.com
      -------
      WOT Services Ltd. - gives us safety through Web of Trust.
      WOT Community - gives us security through unity.
      Thank you all
      - G7W

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    • g7w on Fri 03 Sep 2010
    • 06:04:39 PM UTC

    cyberdefender.biz

    Heard another "Double my speed" commercial on the radio today, decided to look up this old thread.

    Here's a few more domains - not sure how it got missed. ;-)

    cyberdefender.biz
    cyberdefender.org
    cyberdefender.us

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      • BobJam (not verified) on Fri 03 Sep 2010
      • 06:29:26 PM UTC

      TV

      @ g7w,

      The TV is full of them these days. So much so that I'm tempted to say that any commercial you see on TV for "speeding up your PC" is a scam. I've never seen one advertised that is legit.

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      • CDA230 on Fri 03 Sep 2010
      • 07:19:32 PM UTC

      More..

      66.223.16.46
      cyberdefender.eu
      cyberdefender.mobi
      cyberdefender.name
      cyberdefender.org
      cyberdefender.tw

      66.223.16.66
      antispywarenetwork.com

      66.223.16.77
      mycyberdefender.com
      myiddefender.com
      myiddefender.net
      myidentitydefender.net
      securitytoolbar.com
      securitytoolbar.net

      208.118.60.20
      antispywarefordummies.com
      cleanpcnow.com
      cyber-defender.com
      cyberdefender.com
      doublemypcspeed.com
      doublemyspeed.com
      maxmyspeed.com
      mycleanpc.com
      myidentitydefender.com
      rampmyspeed.com
      supportgenie.com
      ustechsupport.com

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        • IssViews on Fri 03 Sep 2010
        • 07:38:43 PM UTC

        Thanks although shouldn't

        Thanks although shouldn't they be listed in Red? I checked the whois on supportgenie.com and ustechsupport.com which both are registered to Cyberdefender Corporation

        Using an obese PC. I offer it a bit and it takes a megabyte.

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        • g7w on Sat 04 Sep 2010
        • 01:08:00 AM UTC

        re: More...

        Not affiliated - should NOT be rated since it is NOT a CyberDefender Corp. domain
        cyberdefender.eu - whois | whois.eu
        cyberdefender.net - whois

        Neither of these load and whois is privacy protected, not verifiable as being CyberDefender Corp
        so they should be rated on their own merit and not referenced in this discussion.
        securitytoolbar.com - whois
        securitytoolbar.net - whois

        previously posted in this thread:
        cyberdefender.org
        cleanpcnow.com
        cyberdefender.com
        doublemyspeed.com
        mycleanpc.com

        "new" / confirmed:
        cyberdefender.mobi
        cyberdefender.name
        cyberdefender.tw
        mycyberdefender.com
        myiddefender.com
        myiddefender.net
        myidentitydefender.net
        cyber-defender.com
        doublemypcspeed.com
        maxmyspeed.com
        myidentitydefender.com
        rampmyspeed.com
        supportgenie.com
        ustechsupport.com

        More:

        cyberdefenderdownload.com
        getprotectedonline.com
        pc-protection.org
        cyber-defender.info
        eblocs.com

        Main corporate site (currently green):
        cyberdefendercorp.com

        twitter.com/cyberdefender - scorecard
        _p_mn4wezlsmrswmzlomrsxe.twitter.com

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          • IssViews on Sat 04 Sep 2010
          • 01:16:42 AM UTC

          Thanks g7w, I have removed

          Thanks g7w, I have removed my rating and comments wrongle placed against those that were not affilliated with Cyberdefender.

          Using an obese PC. I offer it a bit and it takes a megabyte.

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          • Figure10 on Sun 05 Sep 2010
          • 03:02:36 AM UTC

          Thanks

          Rated as many as I could

          I ❤ WOT

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    • giedrius on Fri 03 Sep 2010
    • 07:50:48 PM UTC

    I have took time to retest

    I have took time to retest cyberDefender today. Some problems it detected (including missing handlers for file extensions, related to standart microsoft games on Windows 7 ) looked strange. some of the detected stuff was common one ( empty registry keys,etc) However, the program installed/uninstalled without any problems. Can't say that their intentions are malicious, but have no wish to test their repair capabilities outside testbed.
    The claim that they will speed PC (at least a lot) is not true, and can not be true in all cases.