General discussion
The Streamline Funnel System
Fri 03 Jul 2009 02:31:56 PM UTC — JR63Hello everyone!
I want to have your opinion about this software called The Streamline Funnel System which is in prelaunch now, a friend sent me the link and i already became a free member ( I took the promotion, free until July 7th). It is based on earning residual income online. The idea is that when you become a member you get 10,000 leads that marketers will use, so you will act "redirecting traffic" to target potential customers and you will get a percent of the sales. Also, marketers may be interested in buying LEAD PACKAGES , they come in three different sizes , with 10000 leads, 20,000 and 40,000.
Whenever someone buys one of these packages using your link you will receive a monthly income that ranges from $50.00 to $185.00. That sounds really good to me because i am in need a supplemental income.
I would like to hear your opinion about this if you have any information because so far i haven't heard anything negative and I want to make sure i am on the right track.
There are promotional videos in YouTube explaining what it is all about.. It is a 100% hands free program and I really have high hopes that this could work.
Here is the link, if you want to follow me here is my invite, if, on the contrary, you have a negative opinion I would really appreciate that you let me know.
Thank you very much,
JR63
http://www.StreamlineFunnelSystem.com/?ID=16859
Boo
Fri 03 Jul 2009 02:49:30 PM UTC — sebsauvageboo... really looks like scam at first look.
"Uses Web 3.0 technology" ? WTF ?
Rated red.
The Streamline Funnel System.
Fri 03 Jul 2009 03:11:52 PM UTC — JR63Yes , i really looks like spam, but so far I haven't read anything negative and , is there any risk in giving it a try? You just do not have to provide any personal information, jsu your email and a contact phone. The official launching day is July 7th. I have already downloaded more than 9000 leads and i can't wait to see how this is going to work. Let me teel you I am pretty excited because it really looks like something revolutionary online and if it works it will be a financila relief!
Thanks for your reply.
Keep in touch!
JR63
http://www.StreamlineFunnelSystem.com/?ID=16859
No Personal Information?
Fri 03 Jul 2009 03:51:20 PM UTC — cotojoOnly your email addy and telephone number, plus FULL name and Country
That is personal information which also puts users at risk of ID Theft and Fraud. No mention of Privacy or anything else, prepare for bucketloads of spam as your details will be sold on to the lowest bidders.
Like so many things online, if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is!
And the link you have posted is probably your affiliate link!
Scam...that's all I can say, plus a red rating.
Colin
http://freepcsecurity.co.uk
"If you have knowledge, let others light their candles with it" - Winston Churchill
Yes, it is my affiliate
Fri 03 Jul 2009 04:04:37 PM UTC — JR63Yes, it is my affiliate link. It is the one that I have. If you do not want to enter there you can go to www.The Streamlinefunelsystem.com. I have no idea why my details would be sold, I am not buying or selling and my computer blocks third parties.
Thanks for your advice!
JR63
Worth reading it
Fri 03 Jul 2009 04:19:58 PM UTC — JR63business-articles/streamline-funnel-system-review-all-hype-or-the-real-deal-1004227.html
Link does not work
Fri 03 Jul 2009 04:25:55 PM UTC — phantazmbusiness-articles/streamline-funnel-system-review-all-hype-or-the-real-deal-1004227.html
Haven't you forgotten something..?
go here
Fri 03 Jul 2009 06:19:45 PM UTC — g7wIt's a reccomendation from one MLM marketer about another who advertises each others sites; so naturally the post is "praise"
hxxp://www.articlesbase.com/home-business-articles/streamline-funnel-system-review-all-hype-or-the-real-deal-1004227.html
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There you go
Fri 03 Jul 2009 04:48:14 PM UTC — JR63All over the internet
, there have been emails and blog posts about the new streamline funnel system. But what exactly is it? And is it a scam or the real deal?
At its core, the streamline funnel system is another online business opportunity building system built and designed by Paul Birdsall, who actually has built many successful MLM internet systems in the past, namely Pay-It-Forward 4 Profits, and Streamline Magic.
According to the promotional emails, the system promises to use "Web 3.0 technology" in order to extract thousands of leads from the internet.
The streamline funnel system promises to include a package of "lethal 'yet ethical' lead generation software
which automatically extracts leads & traffic from targeted sites we don't own and then... systematically does the selling for you!" This is straight from the main website for the system.
In fact, it promises to give you 10,000 opt-in leads when you sign-up for the system for under $10. The validity and responsiveness of these leads remains to be seen. I for one will be closely watching to see how it works.
However, no, its not another scam, nor a fraud, but appears to be a legitimate business building system from a well established and successful internet network
marketer. Will the streamline funnel system be as successful as previous systems devised by Paul Birdsall? This still remains to be seen.
But, the key to any of these systems is how you market it, not all the bells and whistles associated with it. What you are personally going to do with the system is the question.
How will you get targeted internet traffic to it, through pay-per-click marketing, article marketing, videos or search engine optimization.
The key to your business wont be the streamline funnel system itself, but your own marketing and what you do with it.
If you want to learn more about how to build your streamline funnel system business, read below and click the link for more information.
Kurt Henninger
Kurt Henninger is a successful network marketer who helps others create their own version of true wealth online. Get your free 7-day cutting edge MLM training series to help you generate leads for free at: http://MLMSponsoringNow.com
http://www.StreamlineFunnelSystem.com/?ID=16859
More comments.
Fri 03 Jul 2009 05:13:09 PM UTC — JR63http://hubpages.com/hub/Streamline-Funnel-System
http://www.StreamlineFunnelSystem.com/?ID=16859
BS ?
Fri 03 Jul 2009 05:30:10 PM UTC — sebsauvageAll of this looks awfully like BS to me, sorry.
re: streamlinefunnelsystem.com
Sat 04 Jul 2009 12:17:29 PM UTC — g7wstreamlinefunnelsystem.com advertises "Web 3.0" = there is no such thing.
streamlinefunnelsystem.com bottom right corner you'll notice where the site is generated from: cheapminisite.com (served on websitewelcome.com - blacklisted) and explosivelist.com
This grows long, as does many MLM / Affiliate sites and links.
Let's see...
streamlinefunnelsystem.com
mail.streamlinefunnelsystem.com
ns1.streamlinefunnelsystem.com
ns2.streamlinefunnelsystem.com
fundedstreamlinesponsoring.com
mail.fundedstreamlinesponsoring.com
ns1.fundedstreamlinesponsoring.com
ns2.fundedstreamlinesponsoring.com
paamonline.com
generalendb.com
hover-traffic.com
listrecruiter.com
mytrafficace.com
scandinavianaces.com
trafficgiantic.com
viralexchange.biz
rate all RED
Fraud Scam Phishing
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Thanks g7w,
Fri 03 Jul 2009 08:18:10 PM UTC — shazzaAll rated and commented.
Ditto
Fri 03 Jul 2009 08:27:06 PM UTC — cotojoThe streamline funnel system has just been streamlined a little more :-)
Now RED doesn't suit me, but it's a color I am fast becoming accustomed to (I can't think why) and with all of the weapons at my disposal I am sure that they will be well used :-)
Colin
http://freepcsecurity.co.uk
"If you have knowledge, let others light their candles with it" - Winston Churchill
I was an early registrant
Sat 04 Jul 2009 12:18:49 AM UTC — Eric.HendrixOK, I was all excited about this program and you guys have wizzed all over my enthusiasm.
http://www.StreamlineFunnelSystem.com/?ID=1907
As of right now I am showing I have 24152 in my downline on the back office page as it is now. This is what I understand was being generated on autopilot for me. for a little over a week this is GREAT!!!
I have personally sponsored a few my self as well.
The launch date is 7/7/9 and I feel that since I have gone this far I may as well ride it out. For only $9.95 I can see if this is going to work.
Paul is offering a double your money back guarantee that you will make at least your money back in full or Paul will give you twice your investment.
So I think with that it can't be all that bad.
You should not bash any site without having all the information. The site offers ongoing webinars for members. You should attend those to get further info.
That is my two cents for what it is worth.
Eric
fire
Sat 04 Jul 2009 05:02:31 AM UTC — g7wsome realize that fire is hot without the need to stick their fingers into it, others need to get burned.
There are tons of "get rich quick" schemes online.
Before you "signed up" did you perform a simple Google search for paul birdsall?
Here's the first hit I got:
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=20216
notice the date of the threads are 2006 with different domain names but the same old "sell" (scam).
There's also this at RipOffReport.com
Did you ever look into the real Paul Birdsall?
He was a professor of history at Williams College and died in 1970; there is now the Paul Birdsall Prize and it has nothing to do with online MLM scams.
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Thisis inaccurate
Sat 04 Jul 2009 06:47:42 AM UTC — paulkinderHi
I'm Paul Kinder - the owner of AFFILIATE Funnel and one half of Kinder-Rash-Marketing
We are not in any way shape or form associated with Paul Birdsall or hie Streamline Funnel System
Please will you eradicate this erroneus slur on our good business.
Many thanks
Paul
my apologies
Sat 04 Jul 2009 12:16:37 PM UTC — g7wYou're correct, your domains are not owned by "Birdsall," they just happened to come in to play by following the links on various sites and pages. Somewhere in the "mix" a birdsall site links to yours. Yes, I do a whois check for every domain and use robtex.com, clez.net, and others for more investigative work.
I'll remove your associated domains from this thread.
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more inaccuracies
Sat 04 Jul 2009 06:53:50 AM UTC — paulkinderI just noticed this...
Not only are you claiming our server is owned Birdsall (check the Whois please before you slander good businesses)
this server is owned by kennether krakstaad and NOT by Birdsall..
74.55.50.82
explosivelist.com
generalendb.com
hover-traffic.com
listrecruiter.com
mytrafficace.com
scandinavianaces.com
trafficgiantic.com
viralexchange.biz
I am aware of who Paul Birdsall is, I have been told he has many unhappy customers and having looked at some of his businesses I can tell you I would never be associated with them, or promote them in any way.
I am on public record advising inexperienced marketers to stay clear of his sites. I really do not appreciate this inaccurate and ill-informed attack on my business.
Notice
Sat 04 Jul 2009 12:56:29 PM UTC — g7wNotice the indentations
I have not claimed all domains are owned by birdsall, just the one that is the topic of this thread listed in the first block of domains; however, they all link to each other.
Birds of a feather flock together
So this thread is reserved for "affiliate funnel" since you claim ownership on that phrase.
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Birds of a Feather Flock Together?
Sun 05 Jul 2009 12:45:06 PM UTC — paulkinderOh come on. Let's look at the facts..
1. Not one of my sites has ever nor will ever link to a Paul Birdsall site.
2. I am on record in public forums recommending people to not join his sites
3. You still have not provided any evidence to substantiate your comments.
If you can explain your concerns I will happily answer them but without that I see no logic here, other than our domain contains the word funnel in it and Birdsall just happened to use the same word a couple of years later.
Please will stop this unsubstantiated slur on our good name or explain your actions.
I thank you in advance for your co-operation.
Paul
as I said
Sun 05 Jul 2009 04:13:32 PM UTC — g7wit's all the same in a search
BTW, you're off topic here, your site has been separated as you requested via a PM to me.
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okey dokes
Sun 05 Jul 2009 05:49:04 PM UTC — paulkinderno more comments in this thread.
I have to say that I feel doing a google search on our name does not prove a single thing though.
You started this thread due to concerns about paul bridsall and his site
thestreamlinefunnelsystem.com
Please note: you've had no reply from them as to your comments. On the other hand I have commented because we have a good name.
We've never done anything that raised concerns of this nature and seem to be drawn into this just because somebody else used the word funnel in their domain name.
Any further comments will be made in the affiliate funnel thread assuming you do not choose to produce yet more "evidence" of a dubious nature.
Thanks for your time
Paul
sigh
Sun 05 Jul 2009 11:08:51 PM UTC — g7wI stated earlier that affiliate funnel was discovered by clicking on and visiting links from the other domains previously listed, may have been one of Mr. Birdsall, or via one linked through...
It goes like this
Site A has a link, click it you go to site B, click another you get to site C.
I simply followed the links - they're all the same basic content about the same methods striving for the same goals - get rich quick using our products.
As for a Google search for "Affiliate funn"
Hey, Google doesn't state which site is owned by whom, who are partners and who are not, so I, like anyone else, would have to assume they are related in some way.
Take a Google search for BMW dealers - I would have to assume they sell BMW vehicles; motorcycles, or other BMW products - used or new. If I came across one that advertised BMW vehicles and it turns out they have no relation to British Motor Works products and have their own "BMW's" Who's to know from a search?
Now, it's the result list that you can identify yourself with and disclaim association to all the other "affiliate funnel" systems, sites, etc. through the use of meta tags - that's your site, your design, and your choice; not mine.
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Got it!
Mon 06 Jul 2009 01:05:03 AM UTC — paulkinderThanks for the clarification you gave in the Affiliate Funnel thread. Hope you see my reply there soon.
We now know which of these scammers was linking to us. They managed to exploit a security hole we were unaware of until today. Fixed straight away obviously.
I think the issue is totally resolved and I'm looking forward to your comments.
cheers
Paul
Assumption
Mon 06 Jul 2009 01:09:33 AM UTC — paulkinderOh yes, I agree about the domain names. Easy assumption to make even if not at all accurate.
I wasn't at all impressed to learn of affiliatefunnelsystem.com and not enamoured with birdsall's choice of domain name either but there's not a great deal I can do about that.
cheers
Paul
What's that..?
Sat 04 Jul 2009 12:23:46 PM UTC — phantazm"Uses Web 3.0 technology"
Does anyone have an idea what this is..?
Marketing gimmick.
Sat 04 Jul 2009 12:30:50 PM UTC — sebsauvageThis is marketing gimmick-mumbling. Buzzword.
There is not such thing as Web 3.0 "technology".
This is totally misleading.
Well, let's hear...
Sat 04 Jul 2009 02:38:23 PM UTC — phantazmEric.Hendrix: "The launch date is 7/7/9 and I feel that since I have gone this far I may as well ride it out. For only $9.95 I can see if this is going to work."
That's only a few days from now. You're welcome to report back, how it worked...
All I hear are crickets
Tue 07 Jul 2009 07:58:10 PM UTC — amishrabbitAll I hear are crickets chirping.
I guess we can assume it didn't end well.
I think this is a scam
Tue 14 Jul 2009 06:00:16 PM UTC — pplayerzI have enter this myself. I have contacted their support for 2 days now and I havent gotten a reply back. He claimed to had spent over $90k on the software but it seemed like the site is so generic. It doesnt even have their contact infor on there. and the members pages have errors on them when you try to update your information. heres the error message:
System.InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "" to type 'Date' is not valid. at Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDate(String Value) at Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDate(Object Value) at Members_Account.infoLinkButton_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e) in C:\Inetpub\vhosts\StreamlineFunnelSystem.com\httpdocs\Members2\Account.aspx.vb:line 45
they cant even get their site to work properly, how can you trust paul?
Eric, have to try yo update your information? or try to contact them? because they wont reply to me. I will cancel my membership with them after my three days is up if they dont respond...by the way how to I cancel my membership with them...they dont even give out there contact on the site or tell you how to cancel...I think i have been scam! I really hope this is legit and not a scam. heres my link to their funnel system just to show that I did really try their system.
http://www.StreamlineFunnelSystem.com/?ID=38985
who have try this system and have gotten any positive result?