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- on Fri 23 Oct 2009
- 07:02:00 PM UTC
Re: WOT & Stumbleupon
StumbleUpon lets you find entertaining websites while our service tells you the reputation of the sites you visit. We are about safety and trustworthiness while they are about entertainment. There's not much overlap in my opinion.
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- on Fri 23 Oct 2009
- 11:17:16 PM UTC
No not at all
No not at all Sami...Stumbleupon is not an entertainment medium...Its an exploration of all websites of all context & content and the evaluation of such by discerning users like yourself...Hence the overlap with WOT...They are doing the same thing you are doing just calling it something else...
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- on Fri 23 Oct 2009
- 11:57:30 PM UTC
Safety or Security?
I don't see anything in here about "Safety" or "Security":
So how would you rate a site on safety?
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- on Sat 24 Oct 2009
- 12:12:51 AM UTC
wot should work with more AV
wot should work with more AV instead of only panda...
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- on Sat 24 Oct 2009
- 01:51:55 AM UTC
Which one
What is the AV program that WOT doesn't work with? Or did you mean "partner" with?
And I'm confused. Stumbleupon has nothing to do with AV programs, is not an AV program itself . . . so what's the connection between Stumbleupon and AV programs?
What does this have to do with Stumbleupon NOT rating sites for safety (or, as Hiqutipie claims, rating sites for safety)?
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- on Sat 24 Oct 2009
- 10:36:07 AM UTC
re: wot should work with more AV instead of only panda
Offtopic agreed.
However, I think the meaning was "work with" to equal "partner with" and not if WOT interfered with your local installed AV of choice.
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- on Sun 25 Oct 2009
- 12:10:56 PM UTC
i mean "partner with"...
i mean "partner with"...
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- on Sat 24 Oct 2009
- 10:54:16 AM UTC
StumbleUpon ratings
- Wikipedia entry:
- StumbleUpon is an
Internet community that allows its users to discover and rate Web
pages, photos, and videos. It is a personalized recommendation
engine which uses peer and social-networking principles.
Web pages are presented when the user clicks the "Stumble!" button on the browser's toolbar. StumbleUpon chooses which Web page to display based on the user's ratings of previous pages, ratings by his/her friends, and by the ratings of users with similar interests.
StumbleUpon ratings are merely a thumbs up or thumbs down - like the old movie critics Siskel and Ebert
WOT's rating system is more complex and is security related meritocracy
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- G7W -
- on Sat 24 Oct 2009
- 01:51:21 PM UTC
sites are being Rated on
sites are being Rated on SU...You can just as easy translate that into safety & trustworthiness...People are not rating unsafe sites and most often catch the Spammers and Flag them...
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- on Sat 24 Oct 2009
- 02:19:38 PM UTC
Sorry to intrude here, but I
Sorry to intrude here, but I don't see the overlap at all. You can't translate how much somebody likes the site into the safety of the site.
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- on Sat 24 Oct 2009
- 07:28:14 PM UTC
Echo
Just "liking" the site does NOT translate to safety. I mean, people can easily "like" an unsafe site. I can give you some examples if you want.
"People are not rating unsafe sites"
Then by that logic does it mean that if a site is not rated in SU, it's unsafe? -
- on Sat 24 Oct 2009
- 07:46:43 PM UTC
WOT Ratings
We use WOT as a security tool but we must remember that it is a reputation tool.
Not all safe sites security-wise will be green in WOT, but hopefully all unsafe sites will be red.
Example:
example_siteA.com is unrated.
G7W reviews it, finds no malicious content directly on the site or through off-site links. It does not send out spam, nor is it a PHISH. There is no content suggestive of being hateful, or violent, or sexual in nature requiring an adult rating so G7W rates it green for security purposes.
Destinii Haruya visits the site. Finds it interesting, Notices there is a store, makes a purchase. Has no problem with financial transactions, so the site respects and does not try to abuse PII. BUT it took 5 weeks for the delivery of the product instead of the 5-10 business days as advertised. Also, the product that was shipped did not look like the same item as described on the website. Destinii's really pissed off and tries to reconcile the situation but the site owner is unwilling to exchange or make a refund, so Destinii rates it red for Customer Experience. Who's "right?" They both are. One rated as a security researcher and the other rated as a consumer.StumbleUpon could not possibly translate this because it would have both a thumbs up AND a thumbs down. WOT would translate this to non-green, non-red, more like a yellow/orange where the WOT user should review both comments before proceeding. Conversely, WOT could not make a reliable translation of a StumbleUpon rating since those ratings are generic and are mainly for entertainment purposes; StumbleUpon is a social networking bookmark system — I have no thumbs...
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WOT Community - gives us security through unity.
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- G7W -
- on Sun 25 Oct 2009
- 10:46:44 PM UTC
Rated?
Depends in what context you put it in to. Stumblers "Thumbs Up" or Thumbs Down" a website and can comment on it or add it to their StumbleUpon blog. There is nothing in place as a safety precaution when Stumbling other than adding an "Adult Content" label.
WOT is about rating websites for safety, adult content, malicious content, spam and more.... It's a safety tool, not a time killer or advertising tool as StumbleUpon is.
When you Stumble a site it goes into a "queue" for other Stumblers to discover. WOT doesn't do that.
I've used both extensively.
WOT = Safety tool
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- on Mon 26 Oct 2009
- 05:09:21 PM UTC
Perhaps better integration
When you view a page that you get to through the StumbleUpon website, you view it as a frame, with a StumbleUpon "toolbar" along the upper part of the browser window.
I'd actually find it useful to see the WOT rating for the framed site. As it stands, the WOT plugin for Firefox does not deliver the correct rating for the "framed" site but always delivers the rating for stumbleupon.com, which is neither useful nor protective.
eg., http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#2MLwzK/www.ptable.co...
Should derive ratings details from here: http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/ptable.com
Forget partnerships, or even letting StumbleUpon users ratings for websites tie in with WOT data. I'd like to see the WOT plugin deliver the rating for the "correct" site that I'm viewing in StumbleUpon. It may require some sort of exception rule be added to the plugin. Right now, as far as I'm concerned, WOT doesn't work in the context of StumbleUpon.
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- on Mon 26 Oct 2009
- 06:16:04 PM UTC
I would like to see that as
I would like to see that as well. Some of the sites I visit show you sites in , I actually never see the WOT rating unless I click on open in a new window. That's a good idea amishrabbit.
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- on Mon 26 Oct 2009
- 08:15:06 PM UTC
As I'm sure you know
Wouldn't that be an excellent time to use (when you register) a spamavert-type email address? Though I'm not familiar with SU, so maybe it won't work with that type of thing.
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- on Mon 26 Oct 2009
- 11:45:40 PM UTC
not an option
WOT doesn't work with SU because SU is not in the:
WOT->Settings->Searching [Select when ratings are shown: ] select box.Would be nice if it were an option though.
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WOT Community - gives us security through unity.
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- on Wed 28 Oct 2009
- 02:21:52 PM UTC
Popularity vs Security
WOT and SU are both rating systems, but not identical.
Popularity isn't the same as security.
Consider these examples:A site may be very popular, but not not safe.
A site may be very secure, yet not popular...Another issue is complexity; a simple rating (up/down) isn't always sufficient.
Example: an adult site may be totally unsafe for children, yet completely safe for adults.
A simple thumbs up/down system just isn't enough to include
both a warning and a recommendation...So, I don't think WOT should use data from SU.
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- on Wed 28 Oct 2009
- 06:23:19 PM UTC
Different ways
phantazm and I are saying the same thing, only in different ways:
phantazm: "A site may be very popular, but not not safe.
A site may be very secure, yet not popular"me: "people can easily "like" an unsafe site"
Others have said essentially the same too, and in fact I think that's the consensus. End of argument? (Not an abrasive tone there.)
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- on Wed 28 Oct 2009
- 06:39:43 PM UTC
"End of argument?"
Since the OP hasn't responded in a while and we are all agreeing with one another now then yes. I would say so.
WOT & Stumbleupon
Stumbleupon is the most popular rating community on the net...It would seem that WOT & Stumbleupon overlap each other and yet do the same work indirectly...Is it possible for WOT & Stumbleupon to work together...It does seem like a reasonable & likely relationship that could work for both parties for the good of all...