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IOBit Steals Malwarebytes' Intellectual Property
Mon 02 Nov 2009 10:36:40 PM UTC — jpvipQuoted from RubbeR DuckY:
Malwarebytes has recently uncovered evidence that a company called IOBit based in China is stealing and incorporating our proprietary database and intellectual property into their software. We know this will sound hard to believe, because it was hard for us to believe at first too. But after an indepth investigation, we became convinced it was true.
Malwarebytes intends to pursue legal action against IOBit. We demand IOBit immediately remove all traces of Malwarebytes' proprietary research and database from their software. We also demand IOBit be delisted from Download.com due to Terms of Service violations. This is criminal: it is theft, it is fraud, and we will not stand for it.
What can you do to help? If you feel the same way we do about this theft, we encourage you to send an email to hosting services such as Download.com and Majorgeeks.com requesting that all IOBit software be removed.
Original Advisory and source for above information: http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/index.php?showt...
Other: http://malwarebytes.besttechie.net/2009/11/02/iobi...
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iobit.com
Comment: Ethical Issues
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Mon 02 Nov 2009 10:52:05 PM UTC — WarxasRed and commented...
I am very shocked actually! Uninstalling smart defrag. (Which I never used anyway)
BTW I'd suggest you remove you good comment. :)
oops...
Mon 02 Nov 2009 11:19:53 PM UTC — jpvipI have not got to it, yet. On my way over there. I am only going to agree to the Ethical Comments.
~DragonMaster Jay, malware researcher,
Admin, helpmyos.com
hahaha
Thu 05 Nov 2009 03:27:43 AM UTC — jpvipLooks like they had their users pop in for a rating or agreeing so the site can get back good: http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/iobit.com
Too bad there are a ton of comments about ethical issues.
~DragonMaster Jay, malware researcher,
Admin, helpmyos.com
Yeah..
Thu 05 Nov 2009 03:30:40 AM UTC — WarxasBut it's working, privacy went from yellow to light green! (Unless someone else rated it.)
unacceptable
Mon 02 Nov 2009 11:04:25 PM UTC — ipl_001This is not acceptable!!
With such theft, there's nothing possible left on the Internet!! It would be a jungle!!
I support Malwarebytes.
Wow...
Mon 02 Nov 2009 11:24:19 PM UTC — SpiderLoverI'm very shocked...
Why would they do such a thing?
That doesn't speak well for IOBIT
Mon 02 Nov 2009 11:35:23 PM UTC — bob3160That kind of practice isn't acceptable especially in a security environment..
more ...
Tue 03 Nov 2009 01:15:53 AM UTC — g7w208.101.36.35
LISTED IN BLACKLIST!
bl.spamcannibal.org
no-more-funn.moensted.dk
Spam
208.101.36.35
208.101.36.35-static.reverse.softlayer.com
host06.iobitlive.com
ns5.iobitlive.com
iobit.com
the rest...
iobit.com immediate DNS:
I prefer Scam since they are using Malwarebytes technology and passing it off as their own; Ethical issues works too.
174.37.22.185
iobit.com
ns6.iobitlive.com
download.iobit.com
mail.iobit.com
vps3.iobit.com
Interestingly, iobit.com has contact info in whois, but iobitlive.com is privacy protected
iobit.net informs you to go to iobit.com, then auto-redirects, it shares a-records with the IP 174.37.22.172 and with evonsoft.com, a RegNow affiliate
174.37.22.172
174.37.22.172-static.reverse.softlayer.com
iobit.net
evonsoft.com
mail.evonsoft.com
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WOT Community - gives us security through unity.
Thank you all
- G7W
Is it a joke
Tue 03 Nov 2009 07:28:19 AM UTC — DerikenIt is not the first time for malwarebytes to do such thing to defame other competitor's fame.
@ Deriken
Tue 03 Nov 2009 02:17:14 PM UTC — evilfantasyMBAM and SAS have had more than one disagreement and the last I knew had called truce. You should be more specific.
If anyone thinks that the team at Malwarebytes hasn't taken 360 completely apart and found what they needed before making this public then you need to step back and think a minute before posting. It's a huge accusation and wasn't done on a whim or by looking at scan logs alone.
no joke
Tue 03 Nov 2009 02:44:21 PM UTC — bagwell368On 10/29 as a paying customer I updated 360, and got a toolbar added to my Firefox that despite instructions and despite email with IObit has not been able to be removed. I've used all the Firefox methods, studied the registry, etc. They did send me a new solution which may work.
However, bear this in mind, the toolbar is 3rd party, and it is the "conduit:" product (just follow the links to see for yourself. It has changed which google I use, it has obscured various customizations I have set (IE Firefox has been hijacked). This adware is removed by several products (if you pay them). It records my every click, and splits the profits down the middle between IObit and Conduit.
I don't know about you, but that smacks of a pattern to me - and the notion of an above board anti spyware company forcing me to use a toolbar that is spying on me, is a bit much.
Uhh
Tue 03 Nov 2009 07:29:55 AM UTC — WarxasI highly doubt it's a "joke". If they have done this in the past, then cite some sources.
ha
Tue 03 Nov 2009 08:10:56 AM UTC — jpvipDeriken, 0 ratings 1 post.
Malwarebytes does not have a reason to want to defame such an underrated security company. IOBit is not very popular overall, and has unusual business practices. The President of Malwarebytes has made it clear, that a thorough investigation was done before IOBit was blamed.
~DragonMaster Jay, malware researcher,
Admin, helpmyos.com
Hardly to believe
Tue 03 Nov 2009 09:28:01 AM UTC — David EdwardI’am a user of Malwarebyte for a few years.
Actually, i have been using IObit’s another system optimization software, Advanced SystemCare as well. It’s great.
Recently, i saw IObit Security 360 on CNET.com with high rating and gave it a try, all is OK. It’s hardly to believe the situation is true. I use both Malwarebyte and IObit Security 360 now, and most of time, I found IObit Security 360 can scan more malwares, adwares, Trojan, etc than Malwarebyte, so I still doubt that how IObit steal Malwarebytes’ data? Malwarebyte has no protection for its critical data?
I can see where this is going
Tue 03 Nov 2009 09:33:28 AM UTC — WarxasOk, new members who only have one post.
If you work for IObit you are making yourselves pretty obvious. ;)
I'd believe MalwareBytes over IObit anyday.
I belive in IObit
Tue 03 Nov 2009 09:34:12 AM UTC — vilaneI use IObit products for a really long time and I am also much impressed by all of its freebies. Advanced SystemCare, Game Booster, Smart Defrag. All of these programs help me enjoy my time with my lovely computer. Now, just because IObit Security 360 is a newly born but enjoy soon and great popularity, it should become the target of some other programs? I used it for a while, also I am a tester of its beta version. I can say it's really a good program from my experience. Fast scan speed, high detection (for me, it's the best I ever use). I want all IObit users to say your own words of your story with IObit. Don't you think they are good?
Anyway, I will support IObit as always.
ah yes "my country, right or
Tue 03 Nov 2009 02:49:44 PM UTC — bagwell368ah yes "my country, right or wrong" or as I read it someplace "my mother, drunk or sober". Nice that you are loyal, Iwas until they stabbed me on 10/29 with that fithy toolbar, and then scoffed at me in email on their site - until they actually tested Firefox on my OS, since I did get an answer (not tried yet), and the scoffing stopped.
I sent a letter to their e-commerce company, and lodged a complaint, and got a refund for my yearly subscription from my credit card company.
As that starts to abate, this whole scandal hits.... yes, it's obvious that IObit is clean like the driven snow.
happy with IObit
Thu 12 Nov 2009 11:15:40 PM UTC — ddeavesI have been using Advanced System Care for some time now and am very happy with it. I just found the Security 360 the other day, and am quite impressed with that also. It found some malware that several other programs missed. It's a great program as far as I am concerned. I really hope this is not true about IObit. That would be very sad. By the way... Security 360 GAVE ME THE OPTION for a TOOLBAR, I opted out. I have had no problems.
Deriken, 0 ratings 1
Tue 03 Nov 2009 10:32:06 AM UTC — demonluoDeriken, 0 ratings 1 post.
David Edward, 0 ratings 1 post.
vilane, 0 ratings 1 post.
>_> hello, how come those who praise IObit only got 0 ratings 1 post?
^v^ anyway, i use piriform product - ccleaner, recuva, defraggler instead of IObit...
owned !
Tue 03 Nov 2009 04:11:32 PM UTC — sebsauvageowned ! :-D
People never learn.
BTW, I also find piriform software quite good. Simple, clean, efficient and spyware-free.
It seems....
Wed 04 Nov 2009 12:57:59 AM UTC — jpvipWhen I think of IOBit products, I think of IOLO as well. (iolo.com).
~DragonMaster Jay, malware researcher,
Admin, helpmyos.com
new here
Thu 12 Nov 2009 11:18:14 PM UTC — ddeavesI only have one comment because it's my first time here. I am not a newbie. I believe cc cleaner is a must have, it keeps you from having to go into the registry many times to clean out the leftovers.
Same game
Tue 03 Nov 2009 10:47:47 AM UTC — sebsauvageThe same problem occured also to the author of Spybot Search & Destroy.
He also included fake signatures into his freeware, and saw these fake signatures appear in commercial products.
Doh.
what do u mean? which
Tue 03 Nov 2009 11:57:52 PM UTC — demonluowhat do u mean?
which commercial products (IObit?) stole Spybot Search & Destroy signatures?
please give reference..
Wed 04 Nov 2009 12:49:51 AM UTC — jpvipI would believe you better, sebsauvage, if you give reference so everyone knows what you are talking about. We have users here on WOT that are in their teens, and some that are retired, so not everyone will understand.
~DragonMaster Jay, malware researcher,
Admin, helpmyos.com
You're right.
Wed 04 Nov 2009 01:04:32 PM UTC — sebsauvageYou're right, I should backup my claims.
Unfortunately, I lost the link I had. I'll try to find it back.
There, here they are.
Thu 05 Nov 2009 07:49:00 AM UTC — sebsauvageThere, here they are, right from the official website:
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/news/2005-04-14...
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/compatibility/s...
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/news/2004-11-07...
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/news/2004-08-14...
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/news/2003-07-19...
It happened again, and again...
That was not IOBit, but that's still amazing.
ok, nice info...
Thu 05 Nov 2009 04:00:21 AM UTC — demonluook, nice info...
In all fairness...
Tue 03 Nov 2009 04:16:45 PM UTC — evilfantasy...Piriform software has toolbars also. CCleaner Builds
i always untick yahoo
Tue 03 Nov 2009 11:51:12 PM UTC — demonluoi always untick yahoo toolbar...
good find anyways...