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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 07:27:14 AM UTC
router
First, congrats on the move, you're gonna love it, especially compared to dialup.
The "bundle" is.. OK. personally I do not like VoiP - that's opinion and it's mine.
modem - not a problem, specs aren't really needed because the router sits "between" the PC and the modem.
router specs would help, but as with all routers you normally have a minimum of 4 ports and most routers today, wired or wireless have 6-8 ports. Meaning you should have no problem running both your desktop and the new laptop at the same time (and a couple more to boot)
What I mean by "spec" is IEEE 802.11b, 802.11g or 802.11n
3com and most others have multi-spec compatible cards and they are all about the same. It's brand / quality, stuff like that people shop around for, or the cheapest they can find.The local cable company offers the same deals and they also offer, if requested, to include another wireless network card for a 2nd PC, additional cost of course, but the card will be compatible with the router and normally windows has no problem recognizing the new hardware and installing the drivers for it. Though a driver disk usually accompanies the card, just in case.
I'd ask them before they come out to bring a 2nd card. You could save a few bucks and install it yourself, or have them do it for you.
OR
Get your own, do it yourself (my personal preference)
3com Wireless LAN Client Devices like this one.Some "food for thought" from Microsoft:
10 tips for improving your wireless networkGood luck!
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 08:33:36 AM UTC
what a Difference !
Hey BobJam !!
Yes, that's one heck of a jump. Hope you can reach that high. LOL !
OK, if the provider said it would be a Modem and a Router then, it should be the same config. as mine, (I have DSL though). The Modem will be integrated in the Router and all you have to do is take the CAT5 cable from the Router and plug it in
the Ethernet port in the PC or Netbook. XP should configure the connection on it's own.Now , you'll probably have to insert the CD that comes with the Router to finish the installation . I may sound like it's a simple job but, IF you follow the instructions from the Quick Connect booklet , it should be this simple. You will probably have the chance to configure your WEP (128bit ) ,WAP(256bit) or WAP2(AES) if it's available and the Name of your connection (BobJam will do just fine) also, you'll be able to either Hide or not, the SSID so that it isn't broadcasted to whomever passes by.But seing as your PC is a Bit old , you might not have the choice but to go with the 128bit encryption. I have to say that some "N"
Routers have a hard time with WAP2. Just to let you know.Usually , all of the extra hardware and cabling comes in a neat little package with some to spare. And if anything is missing then, your tech guy will still be on site so, you can ask for more. Make sure you know exactly what you need to do the install , if this the way you want to go otherwise , let them install and show you what they are doing. Some don't like another set of eyes over their shoulders but, just remind them that , you would like to learn how. (polite way of letting them know that, you're paying for this rig.)
You have mentioned 300Mb/s . These speeds are generally associated with the
802.11N specs as opposed to the 802.11G specs which is 100Mb/s. Another question , is this a 3MB line , 5MB line 7MB line or a 10MB line or connection?
do you know which one and do they offer more ? ( More money per month )
I'm asking because with my DSL connection the best we can get is 7MB with the
Phone company (Bell Canada). Our cable company offers a 7MB and 10MB connection . When we get the Fiber Optics installed then , my connection will be
15MB. But that too is more money. (Just can't win). The difference will be in your ability to download faster and also a better upload speed PLUS, no more disconnect and re-dialing .Well, we will await your new arrival with anticipation but , probably not as much as you. LOL!
Athlonite.
Your help is always needed.
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- on Sun 12 Apr 2009
- 09:15:07 PM UTC
Spyware
I stumbled onto this forum as I was searching for items about Windows Defender as I have this activated. I am also trying to install software for a Logitech QuickCam for notebooks. The instructions state that spyware should be disabled to install this. Why should this be? Can I tell Windows Defender to alow this software but still keep it's defender on? From within Windows Defender history I found the following:
clsid: HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLASSES\CLSID\{07B18EA9-A523-4961-B6BB-170DE4475CCA}
regkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLASSES\CLSID\{07B18EA9-A523-4961-B6BB-170DE4475CCA}
regkey: HKCU@S-1-5-21-3539414680-1925121848-3359252717-1002\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser\\{07B18EA9-A523-4961-B6BB-170DE4475CCA}
iewebbrowser: HKCU@S-1-5-21-3539414680-1925121848-3359252717-1002\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser\\{07B18EA9-A523-4961-B6BB-170DE4475CCA}
file: C:\Program Files\MyWebSearch\bar\1.bin\MWSBAR.DLL
None of it means anything to me, can anyone translate into plain english text?
Apologies if I'm in the wrong forum, ideas and help appreciated.
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- on Sun 12 Apr 2009
- 09:48:50 PM UTC
MyWebSearch
Hello Richard,
You would have been better off starting a new forum thread rather than get buried in an old one :-)Here goes:
If you run Hijackthis Download HijAckThis Installer, you will notice the following lines that have been added:R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - {00A6FAF6-072E-44cf-8957-5838F569A31D} - C:\Program Files\MyWebSearch\SrchAstt\1.bin\MWSSRCAS.DLL
O2 - BHO: MyWebSearch Search Assistant BHO - {00A6FAF1-072E-44cf-8957-5838F569A31D} - C:\Program Files\MyWebSearch\SrchAstt\1.bin\MWSSRCAS.DLL
O2 - BHO: mwsBar BHO - {07B18EA1-A523-4961-B6BB-170DE4475CCA} - C:\Program Files\MyWebSearch\bar\1.bin\MWSBAR.DLL
O3 - Toolbar: My &Web Search - {07B18EA9-A523-4961-B6BB-170DE4475CCA} - C:\Program Files\MyWebSearch\bar\1.bin\MWSBAR.DLL
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MyWebSearch Email Plugin] C:\PROGRA~1\MYWEBS~1\bar\1.bin\mwsoemon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MyWebSearch Email Plugin] C:\PROGRA~1\MYWEBS~1\bar\1.bin\mwsoemon.exe
O4 - Startup: MyWebSearch Email Plugin.lnk = C:\Program Files\MyWebSearch\bar\1.bin\MWSOEMON.EXE
O4 - Global Startup: MyWebSearch Email Plugin.lnk = C:\Program Files\MyWebSearch\bar\1.bin\MWSOEMON.EXE
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Search - http://bar.mywebsearch.com/menusearch.html?p=ZWYYYYYYYYUS
O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} - http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/nocache/funwebproducts/ei...
First, uninstall the My Web Search option from Add/Remove Programs
Find "My Web Search" in the list of installed programs and click on Change/Remove to uninstall it. You may also want to uninstall any of the following items associated with FunWebProducts.
My Web Search (Smiley Central or FWP product as applicable)
My Way Speedbar (Smiley Central or other FWP as applicable)
My Way Speedbar (AOL and Yahoo Messengers) (beta users only)
My Way Speedbar (Outlook, Outlook Express, and IncrediMail)
Search Assistant - My WayReboot your Computer and run HijackThis
With HijackThis, scan for and fix any of the entries shown above that may be remaining.
Next, open My Computer, Drive C, and double-click on the Program Files folder
Right-click and delete the folders for:
FunWebProducts
MyWebSearch
MyWebSearch should now be completely uninstalled from your computer. -
- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 09:50:58 AM UTC
Off topic (sorry)
Wish broadband was available out in the country... :-(
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 06:32:40 PM UTC
Eww, we had that too, it was
Eww, we had that too, it was slower that dialup and whenever it was cloudy, there was no internet...
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 07:30:46 PM UTC
Cloudy Weather blues
No TV either.
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- on Fri 20 Mar 2009
- 10:28:58 AM UTC
Not a problem with clouds
I live in the Mohave Desert in Arizona where the average annual rainfall is less than an inch (the temps average over 100 degrees F 9 months of the year) and the sun shines, cloudless, about 360 days a year. So I don't think I'm going to have a problem with clouds.
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- on Fri 20 Mar 2009
- 01:13:34 PM UTC
Clouds
I'll join forces with codhead and we'll huff and we'll puff and blow some clouds your way and be physically wrecked afterwards LOL
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 11:29:51 PM UTC
Off topic
I hear ya. I'm in the country myself and had dial up forever! I hated it! A couple of years ago, Clearwire came to my area!! I am soooo happy with it. It's never down, very fast (especially compared to dial up) and I haven't had a single problem (now I have to knock on wood).
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 10:41:00 AM UTC
OK . . . lemme take these
OK . . . lemme take these things one at a time (head is definitely swirling . . . this stuff is coming at me 100 miles an hour, so bear with me).
BTW, thanks to you both, g7w and Athlonite, for your guidance . . . and if anybody else posts while I'm composing this . . . a good possibility because this first reply is going to take me a while . . . I'll respond after I digest g7w's and Athlonite's stuff.
First, let me address g7w's post.
1. " personally I do not like VoiP"
Why?
Now here is a real noob question about VoiP ("Voice over Internet Protocol"?). I was under the impression that VoiP required you to have your phone connected to the Internet through a computer in the house. But I already have a land line (simple service) connected via a simple phone jack, and the impression I got from the phone company was that it was a simple matter of just switching some relay at the phone company and I would be digital (is "digital" the same thing as "VoiP"?) . . . no installation necessary. So is this VoiP connection down at the phone company? Or am I misunderstanding this whole thing and the phone company duped me?
2. "your desktop
No, as I said in my original post my existing machine is a laptop . . . whoops, correction . . . I just said it was an HP Pavilion ze4700, which is a laptop, but sorry, I didn't say laptop. I don't have a desktop. (Never have in the almost 25 years that I've been messing with these things . . . correction, my first machine was a desktop back in 1985, but never had another one). In any case, I do not currently have a desktop.
That's why I specified a PCMCIA card, not a PCI for a Desktop.
I see that 3Com (thanks for the link, BTW) does indeed advertise a PCMCIA card, and it's given as a "802.11g" card at 54Mps. I think I misspoke in my original post and specified the "High Speed Internet Connection" (HSI) at 300Mbps, and it now looks like it's only 3Mbps (and that pertains to what you said, Athlonite) . . . still a healthy upgrade from my primitive dial up. So, the 802.11g card would seem to fit the speed . . . it does, doesn't it?
Or do I need to get the phone company to tell me the speed of their HSI before I run out and buy a PCMCIA card?
3. "with all routers you normally have a minimum of 4 ports and most routers today, wired or wireless have 6-8 ports. Meaning you should have no problem running both your desktop and the new laptop at the same time"
Since it's wireless, I assume there will be no need for any cable hookups to either machine. Consequently, I'm guessing there will just be a single cable connection between the router and modem, the router being connected to some kind of satellite box inside. Is that correct?.
Can two machines at the same time use the same wireless connection? Don't know that I would ever be doing that, but it would be good to know.
4. "I'd ask them before they come out to bring a 2nd card. You could save a few bucks and install it yourself, or have them do it for you."
Since they're only going to do the wireless hookup on the mini, and it is already equipped with a wireless card, my guess is that they are not going to bring ANY cards with them. Besides, since I don't have a desktop, then unless they brought a PCMCIA card with them (which I doubt very seriously they'd do anyway), a PCI card would be useless to me.
5. The Microsoft stuff about improving wireless connections (thanks for that link too) mentions the virtues of a USB wireless network adapter. However, my antiquated vintage 2004 machine has USB 1.0 ports, not 2.0. This would make a substantial difference in data transfer speeds, and would argue for a PCMCIA card, wouldn't it? Or are my bus speeds the determining factor?
Now for Athlonite.
1. "all you have to do is take the CAT5 cable from the Router and plug it in the Ethernet port in the PC"
Wait a minute . . . wait a minute . . .
This is a wireless connection . . . it wouldn't be called "wireless" if I had to plug in a cable, would it? Or are you just talking about an on and off one time connection to do a configuration?
Now the tech is going to do the setup with the mini, but I'll be on my own for the HP.
2. "Make sure you know exactly what you need to do the install"
Where would I find that out? Maybe I should be making a post on the HP forum . . . do you think that would get me any closer to knowing "exactly" what I need?
3. "You have mentioned 300Mb/s . These speeds are generally associated with the 802.11N specs as opposed to the 802.11G specs which is 100Mb/s."
As I said above, I think I misspoke and it's 3 NOT 300. So would the "g" do for that?
4. "is this a 3MB line , 5MB line 7MB line or a 10MB line or connection"
Wait a minute . . . wait a minute . . . again.
You're talking about DSL, aren't you? This is satellite. Or are you talking about a line from the satellite to the router or something?
OK . . . that's all for now. Thanks very much, guys.
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 10:43:38 AM UTC
Satelltite eh?
A long time ago my friend had satellite and it was a real pain as the download was fast but upload was through dial-up that had to be connected all the time of use and was only 33.3bps.
I may be showing my age but then I'm one of the GOM crowd. :)
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 11:10:35 AM UTC
Hmmmmmm . . .
The phone person never mentioned that. I wonder if I got duped there? I'm hoping that since you said "a long time ago", things have changed since then.
You can bet I'll ask the tech to test the speeds while he's here. Had a URL for one of those speed testing things . . . does upload and download, but can't seem to find it in my bookmarks. Had a dashboard looking display to it.
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 01:37:53 PM UTC
I use Speedtest.net
Wow. I must have been upgraded.

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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 06:09:47 PM UTC
That's it . . .
That's the one I was talking about . . . thanks.
Athlonites link to the snapfiles download is similar (dashboard display), but I'm not sure it does an upload speed test too. I know "Speedtest.net" does both.
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- on Fri 20 Mar 2009
- 01:17:32 PM UTC
speedtest
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 10:35:35 AM UTC
I like Vista now
I have a new Vista Home Premium system now and I am loving it.
It is like learning a new language though as I know the things are there but I don't know the words for them.
I like its built in firewall as I use the free firewall enhancement from SphinxSoftware.
I like my 5MB high speed DSL Bell Canada connection that provides the modem with built in firewall but I have no need for wireless as I do not have a system that needs it.
I removed all their software after I was connected as it is un-necessary for me.
I do not use a software firewall as it is like wearing both a belt and suspenders on a pair of trousers.
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 10:47:33 AM UTC
Sooner or later . . .
Well . . . I'm sure I'll have to step up to VISTA sooner or later (or Win7), but for now I'm focused on this wireless learning curve. And being as I have an old mind with not too many brain cells left, one thing at a time is better for me. Once I get my arms around this wireless stuff, I'm sure I'll be ready for VISTA.
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 11:59:31 AM UTC
Vista or W7 ?
BobJam , If you can hold off, wait till September,my sources say that's when the RTM
(Release to Manufacture ) will happen. so, by the end of Sept. we will see W7 in new rigs. I've got the Beta in a VMWare and from what I have experinced , it is Lighter and faster than my Vista. Allot less resources PLUS , you will be able to delete some of the components in W7, like IE8 for example.That connection tester is here , with the dashboard :
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/speedcontest.html .
The best I found is here :
dslReport :
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?more=1 .
Choose your Country and then , your city or as close as you can get.
Athlonite.
Your help is always needed.
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- on Fri 20 Mar 2009
- 11:13:10 AM UTC
Not anxious to get rid of XP
If you can hold off, wait till September
You may have misunderstood my comment about being "ready". I was not saying it in the sense of "wanting" to migrate, rather I was stating that I will be "prepared" to learn and focus on it ONLY when it becomes necessary to migrate . . . because of either new hardware or software demands.
Would prefer to stay with XP for a few more years though.
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- on Mon 23 Mar 2009
- 07:41:41 PM UTC
Anxious !
Hey BobJam !
Sorry it took so long but, had pressing engagement . Now, it's not the idea of necessary but, more a need to keep up with the times and more importantly , being able to work with the most up to date software / hardware. You'll have to come out of the dark ages at one point so, why not when W7 comes out ?.
Athlonite.
Your help is always needed.
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 10:42:40 AM UTC
Wi Fi
I have wi fi and am fairly new to computers Bobjam.Its a fairly simple set up for me and I am a fairly simple guy.I do not have a cable between laptop and router.When you set up your connection you get like a radar graphic pinging looking to hook up laptop to router.I just plugged a dvd in the laptop and it guided me through it was a breeze.Voip,I have a facility to use it through my router but chose not to.I just kept my ordinary phone by choice.I did not need to buy a card but my wi fi broadband is not through satellite so do not know about that.The one thing I can say is it is fast.And I am sure you will like it.(G.O.M.with Honours).
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 10:52:51 AM UTC
Thanks . . .
Thanks for the encouragement, cod head. I just figured it was time for me to put down the stubby pencil (that would be dial up), and step into this century.
So your machine came already equipped with a wireless adapter?
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- on Thu 19 Mar 2009
- 11:16:11 AM UTC
Hey BobJam !
BobJam , I think we inundated you with too much info.
OK, The Cat5 cable should be to configure the Wireless unit (Router) . You have to be able to get into the Router's config. Panel , to set up the WEP or WAP (encryption and password . Once set up, you can disconnect the CAT5 and go wireless BUT, even though you have a 3MB connection from the outside , the Actual speed of a wireless is as you stated 54Mb/s.
NOW, if you were to Stay connected via CAT5 then, your speed would be 100Mb/s. See the difference ? PLus that wireless speed will always vary. It could go from 36 to 54 Mb/s. as opposed to being hard wired and stable.I think you are already registered at PCWorld right ? Well , rgreen and smax are our experts on these matters. it would be very simple to ask now and get the answers you need. I know that one of them is connected via satellite and I'm sure he would gladly give you all the right info. I'm more of a DSL guy then Satellite but , the basics are the same.
If you already have that WiFi Card , I'm sure the tech could tell you how to install and configure. This should not take much time. Then, you hook -up via your SSID that would be broadcasting and tell it to access this same SSID every time you turn the notebook on. Then, you go back in the Router Config. Panel and Turn Off the Broadcasting of the SSID. Your notebook will now automatically connect to this SSID on it's own.
And lastly , for me anyways, Voip is a nice addition but, if your satellite runs in some kind of trouble , what happens to your phone.??
An alternative that is fairly new but, has been proven very effective is :
MagicJack : http://www.magicjack.com/4/index.asp .
See you on PCW.
Athlonite
Your help is always needed.
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- on Fri 20 Mar 2009
- 12:10:58 PM UTC
No, no . . . never too much . . .
"I think we inundated you with too much info."
While I did say that my head was spinning, that's a constant plague I have with learning anything new, BUT A PLEASANT ONE AT THAT. I did not mean to give the impression that your stuff was information overload, though I can see how you would think that looking at my replies.
My theory of how best to learn new things is to jump in the deep end of the pool . . . give myself a lot to think about. On the first pass, I typically only absorb about 10%. And then I start having these "revelations" . . . "Oh, THAT's what they were talking about!!!" And from there, it keeps going up.
So, please feed me as much info as you want. The only restriction may be your OWN patience: "Geeezzz, Jamieson, I told you that a dozen times, AND YOU STILL DON'T GET IT".
"The Cat5 cable should be to configure the Wireless unit (Router) . You have to be able to get into the Router's config. Panel , to set up the WEP or WAP (encryption and password . Once set up, you can disconnect the CAT5 and go wireless"
OK lemme see if I got this straight. You're saying that the router can't be configured through the wireless connection, but rather requires an Ethernet cable connection with the computer to configure it?
If the tech does that to configure it for working with the Dell Mini, will I have to reconfigure it to work with my HP?
"NOW, if you were to Stay connected via CAT5 then, your speed would be 100Mb/s. See the difference ?"
I think so. You're saying that an Ethernet cable connection is faster than wireless?
"I think you are already registered at PCWorld right ?"
Yes, but that site is apparently loaded with graphics suited for broadband more than dial up, because on my dial up it takes quite a bit of time to load. I remember on IE, there was a setting I could use that just downloaded the text from web pages and not the graphics. Is there something similar in FF? Probably is . . . I'll poke around and look for it.
"If you already have that WiFi Card"
I haven't yet ordered any PCMCIA WiFi adapter on my HP. I'm holding off because I don't want to get stuck with something that turns out wrong. Is 802.11g sufficient, and can I get any old card (I think that was what g7w was saying)? The average price seems to be around $60 bucks. TigerDirect has a Belkin. I haven't looked at NewEgg yet, or done a Pricegrabber search.
"Then, you go back in the Router Config. Panel and Turn Off the Broadcasting of the SSID"
Wait a minute . . . wait a minute . . .
Now it seems like you're saying that I can access the router config panel through my wireless connection and don't need to do it through an Ethernet cable. What am I missing here?
"if your satellite runs in some kind of trouble , what happens to your phone.??"
The satellite I have, as I understand it, only has to do with my TV and Internet connection. The satellite dish at the phone company facility is the one that does the VoiP. The line into my house gets that signal from the phone company satellite, not the satellite on my house. I'm pretty sure about this, because the phone company just scheduled the tech for the TV and the Internet connection. I specifically asked them if they needed to schedule something for the phone installation (I already have regular service through them), and they specifically replied that, NO, all we need to do is "flip a switch" down here.
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- on Fri 20 Mar 2009
- 12:33:52 PM UTC
Wi Fi
When I connected my laptop to my router I did not have to hook it up to Ethernet first.I plugged in the wireless router and left it for about 20mins to download stuff it needed.When downloading it had flashing lights and when it finished they all turned steady.Then I turned on my laptop and inserted the dvd and it guided me through connecting laptop to router.Has I said it had like a radar graphic pinging to locate router and when it did it told me so.The only thing I hooked up was the router to the phone line and that was a simple plug in.As for security,living rural like you do who is going to try to connect to your wifi which is encrypted anyway.Both my neighbors do not have computers so I don't worry to much.As for someone parking outside my house to try and nick my bandwidth,no one knows I have wi fi .(G.O.M.with Honours).


Wireless Security
Well . . . I did it. Stepped into the 21st Century and got Broadband. And to make this pertinent to WOT, I need some advice on wireless security . . . WEP, WPA, all that stuff (I know the acronyms, but that's about it)
Here's the details and I have one beginning question about this all. (Once that's answered I'm sure I'll have some more).
First of all, they're coming to hook me up next Wednesday, the 25th, so I'm going to use that time to read up and at least be able to ask some basic intelligent questions (right now I'm pretty much of a dunce on this whole thing).
It's going to be a satellite wireless hookup.
It was one of those promotional deals where the satellite is for TV (Dish), bundled with Digital Phone (unlimited long distance etc.), and "High Speed Internet" (I think it's supposed to be 300Mbps . . . which, whatever it ends up to be, will be an improvement over my measly 50Kbps dial up).
They're going to furnish the router and modem ($5 dollars a month for that rental), and as an added enticement I get a Dell Inspiron 910 (a mini notebook with an SSD) for just the S&H. Fortunately, for me anyway, the 910 will come equipped with XP HE instead of VISTA. I say "fortunately" because I already have XP HE on this machine so I pretty much know my way around that OS and won't have to learn a new OS in addition to the wireless networking stuff. And the 910 will be equipped for wireless, so that's what they'll hook up.
But I want to get a wireless PCMCIA card for this machine (HP Pavillion ze4700, vintage 2004) so that I can use it and have the mini as a backup for when this one becomes a boat anchor.
That's about it for now . . . I'm pretty overwhelmed at the moment and just starting to climb the learning curve on wireless/broadband security technology.
So, first off, what questions do I need to answer here so that you guys can put me on the right learning curve?
I'm looking for specifics rather than links to tutorials . . . my plate is already full with those things.
TIA
BJ, the Wireless Security DUNCE