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    • g7w on Tue 21 Apr 2009
    • 04:16:10 AM UTC

    comments without ratings

    WOT Scorecard
    select Category, leave comment.
    the yellow Info arrow is displayed prompting for a rating.

    What happens to the comment if I choose not to rate the site?

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    • Warxas on Tue 21 Apr 2009
    • 04:50:17 AM UTC

    Re: comments without ratings

    When you add a comment to a site it tells people why you rated the site that way. When you rate the site THAT is what changes the rating.
    So I am saying, if you don't rate it the rating will remain the same. :)

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      • g7w on Tue 21 Apr 2009
      • 06:34:56 AM UTC

      Thanks

      I understand that.

      My question was

      Commenting without rating
      what happens with the comment?

      I've noticed users have:
      Ratings: 0
      Comments: 5
      (no posts in the forums - all seem to be scorecard commenting)

      My point was...
      Shouldn't WOT Scorecard Comments be Restricted to after a Rating (vote) is made?
      Maybe allow comments to be view and linked, but NOT created or Agree / Disagree until after you cast your vote. If you do not wish to vote, then you shoulldn't be allowed to comment.

      Why?
      Some users may cast their votes based upon the comments they see and if people are leaving comments without voting... they are in effect "tipping the pot." aka; "steering the vote."
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        • Sami on Tue 21 Apr 2009
        • 07:57:56 AM UTC

        Re: Thanks

        I've noticed users have

        Might be because the rating count hasn't updated yet.

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          • g7w on Tue 21 Apr 2009
          • 08:05:52 AM UTC

          no

          in some instances, the "last comment" made was a few days or longer from current date; WOT takes no more than 24 hours to catch up, correct?
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            • Sami on Tue 21 Apr 2009
            • 08:15:57 AM UTC

            Re: no

            That's right.

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    • Esa S. on Tue 21 Apr 2009
    • 07:00:17 AM UTC

    Comments without ratings

    Comments without ratings are as valid comments as any other, but we want to remind people that comments as such don't have any influence on the rating. So if you want to get your voice heard, you need to always rate the site.

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      • g7w on Tue 21 Apr 2009
      • 08:19:28 AM UTC

      this, I'll disagree with

      comments as such don't have any influence on the rating

      On your perspective Esa, that statement is true but, on a user's perspective...
      comments are their "point of trust" it can be a psychological "security blanket" they see a sight that looks completely innocent to them, they check the scorecard and it might be one that is "controversial" with a notice of such explaining that comments and ratings differ. Now they are confused, "but I thought this site was good and look at all these red [bad] comments... maybe I should be safe and rate it low too."

      IMHO a comment is a "voice to be heard" and while ratings (votes) are private and always should remain so, comments should be restricted to the overall rating. Example would be if my ratings are high I should be offered green comments, if my ratings are low, then red comments. The system as it currently is allows me to rate a site very poorly while offering a "Good Site" comment (contradiction). Most users, I'm sure, rate sites, and those who comment line their comments to reflect their ratings; but there are those who will attempt malice within the "system" and there should be safe-guards in place to protect honest users from mischievous ones.

      BTW, these are my opinions. People, for the most part, are inherently honest; yet there are those few bad apples in the barrel - and every barrel has some.
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        • Sami on Tue 21 Apr 2009
        • 08:25:00 AM UTC

        Re: this, I'll disagree with

        The system as it currently is allows me to rate a site very poorly while offering a "Good Site" comment

        Sure, it doesn't make any sense if someone does that, but what exactly is the harm if they do? Only the rating affects the site's reputation.

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          • g7w on Tue 21 Apr 2009
          • 08:29:05 AM UTC

          understood, but

          existing comments could affect future ratings.

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            • Sami on Tue 21 Apr 2009
            • 08:30:48 AM UTC

            Re: understood, but

            It's possible, but if someone wants to see the site rated poorly, what would they gain from giving it a good comment?

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        • Deciare on Tue 21 Apr 2009
        • 07:52:59 PM UTC

        I've left a negative comment

        I've left a negative comment on a site for which I gave a good rating before. They are trustworthy, in the sense that they provide exactly the service they claim to. They are reliable in the sense that many people have previously purchased from them and recommended them. They did, however, give me a negative customer experience with a series of shopping cart glitches.

        Ultimately, I wasn't charged multiple times for it, which is good, but such an experience is still unsettling even if it works out in the end.

        In that context, a negative comment is more of a warning that "potential problems are known to happen" rather than "this site is bad".

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    • phantazm on Tue 21 Apr 2009
    • 12:07:14 PM UTC

    Comment without rating sometimes makes sense

    It does not happen often, but it's not that rare either.
    A meaningful comment with no rate could be:

    "This site has been suspended"

    This means, that what ever the site was before, it is now all gone.
    If the domain name is ever reactivated, it's a new owner/content...

    Actually such a suspension should annihilate all older comments/ratings, as they are no longer relevant. And also false information if the domain returns one day...