My little sister makes probably the biggest mistake she can make on the internet:
-She plays online games
-in IE
-without any security programmes.
She also deliberately does right the opposite of what I tell her for security.
As a minimum safety action I have just installed WOT on the computer she uses. When I was trying to enable protection from adult content, I got the error message "Not available yet" and the notice that the feature was currently disabled. Is there any way for me to protect her from adult content now, without creating an extra profile?
Protect from adult content.
su 21. joulukuuta 2008 14:43:25 — cod head (ei varmistettu)There is a password protected programme called K.9.you can download for child protection.It has a lot of different levels and will filter out adult content.You can get it at www.getk9.com. If that is of any use to you.
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su 21. joulukuuta 2008 15:30:01 — FlyAquaHi, sorry they won't allow me to install anything else. How can I activate the WOT function?
Protect child
su 21. joulukuuta 2008 15:36:27 — cod head (ei varmistettu)I think I read someware that if you have two computers you can synchronise them both with your profile.So your sister would surf under your profile.I think it may be a page or two back how to do it unless Sami or wehaveitall is about.I know you can definalely do this.It is on site somewere.Wishing you all the best in protecting your sister,Codhead.
Re above.
su 21. joulukuuta 2008 15:40:43 — cod head (ei varmistettu)Look at support page,then I have two computers,it tells you about synchronising two computers.
Thx
su 21. joulukuuta 2008 16:22:24 — FlyAquaThanks, cod head. I've been around for long enough so I know how to do it, but since sharing my profile with someone else is risky for me (and in addition it might even be illegal here), this is an option, but certainly not the best.
I see, I need to create her another profile. But why is the feature disabled at all, and why do you need to register for it?
Thx
su 21. joulukuuta 2008 18:26:41 — cod head (ei varmistettu)I think its because unless you become a registered user you only have limited use of the functions.
Yeah, but does it make sense
su 21. joulukuuta 2008 18:48:44 — FlyAquaYeah, but does it make sense to disable this one, the main feature?
Re: Warning settings
su 21. joulukuuta 2008 19:03:00 — SamiYou can still select any of the preset warning levels without creating an account, and customizing warning settings isn't the main feature. However, I believe this restriction will be removed in future versions.
Re:
su 21. joulukuuta 2008 22:14:03 — FlyAquaHi Sami,
thanks for your reply. I tried them all, but none of them includes protection from adult content.
customizing warning settings isn't the main feature
I don't mean costumizing the add-on is but the warning screens are.
I see, the only possible way is by creating an inactive profile (=
websense
pe 26. joulukuuta 2008 20:29:31 — estro2sadly use websense, or switch to firefox and add in the site blocking app
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pe 26. joulukuuta 2008 22:30:47 — FlyAquaHi,
sorry they won't let me do that. I recommended that so many times... Isn't it difficult to try to protect someone who tries to get the least safety they can...
Well, to put it bluntly,
la 27. joulukuuta 2008 11:58:27 — lordpakeWell, to put it bluntly, that's their and your sister's problem then. You have given them information and advice. That people choose to ignore it, for whatever reason, is not your problem anymore.
You have done your best :) Some people just are byeond hope. Just remember, don't use that PC to login anywhere :D
ps. If you are the one looking after the computers in the household, make sure others realize/know that. You can always give them ultimatum: it's either your way or the highway, meaning if they do not let you look after those PCs with the best of your abilities, you won't touch them anymore. Let them learn the craft themselves. Let them see how easy and simple it all must be ... Just because they are possibly family, doesn't mean you have to spend your free time fixing problems they cause :)
"Men make good pets."
that's their and your
la 27. joulukuuta 2008 13:32:17 — FlyAquathat's their and your sister's problem then
It's not - we're using a network with a home server, and with their computers the server gets infected, and because I use files on the server all the time, so does my computer.
Hm, how about secretly installing FF, using an IE theme and the IE icon for the shortcuts...? She knows so little about computers she wouldn't even know how to access IE again... :-S
thats their and your
su 28. joulukuuta 2008 11:27:45 — cod head (ei varmistettu)Sometimes right and wrong is not black and white.There are often grey areas.If you can install firefox using a IE theme and icon without your family knowing then I think because you are doing it for a good reason,and its for there protection as well as yours.I would go for it.Of course that is my opinion and not wots.
Echo
la 27. joulukuuta 2008 12:48:43 — BobJamPerhaps harsh, but very true.
Reverse logic..?
la 27. joulukuuta 2008 23:32:37 — phantazmFlyAqua: "She also deliberately does right the opposite of what I tell her for security."
Have you tried telling her the opposite..? (= Please disregard any security issue
+ you have to reinstall everything when the pc eventually stops working.)
To paraphase another reviewer: There's no technical solutions to relational problems...
So true.
su 28. joulukuuta 2008 21:36:47 — YoKennySo true.
So, I have now installed
su 28. joulukuuta 2008 22:29:29 — FlyAquaSo, I have now installed Firefox. Let's see how they'll react... >-P
I Think...
ma 29. joulukuuta 2008 02:41:31 — Xp54321Alas, based on how she will not yet you install anything that will help protect her nor listen to your advice; I doubt she'll listen until: "The computer's broken, it's so slow!"[Spyware and adware]; "Hey! I almost got past that level!" [Blue Screen of Death]; etc. I should note, when that 0-Day vunerability went around the Internet for Internet Explorer recently, (See that relevant forum topic) most of the sites affected were *game* sites. However, Firefox with an IE-like theme...mhm...it could definitely work, if she is that ignorant of the potential dangers(And knows little about computers), she will likely be like most people using computers and never know the difference....:) I like it! Also, I recently found a most interesting little article about Firefox vs. Internet Explorer users. :) Here's the link: http://www.comscore.com/blog/2007/04/firefox_vs_internet_explorer.html. Interesting, no? ;)
So true... =)
ma 29. joulukuuta 2008 11:34:39 — FlyAquaSo true... =)
So, here is their
to 1. tammikuuta 2009 14:59:44 — FlyAquaSo, here is their reaction:
After screaming so loud the entire house shook, they uninstalled firefox and got IE again. I now am no longer allowed to only touch any computer except my own.
Dude, my ears are still ringing...
Five minutes later, the first trojan appeared in the network.
So much for helping them stay safe. (=
So here
to 1. tammikuuta 2009 16:05:21 — cod head (ei varmistettu)I think the appearance of a trojan proves your point.I am sorry you got in trouble,seeing as you seem more sensible than the adults.You have tried your best for them now you can only cocentrate on protecting your own computer.Wich as you are on a network will be difficult.
--- Oh well, now they even
to 1. tammikuuta 2009 16:22:01 — FlyAqua---
Oh well, now they even got my main pc.
i'm curious how this story will continue, but for now, it's actually my own problem ;-)
Thx for your help anyway.
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la 16. toukokuuta 2009 11:09:42 — FlyAqua----------------------
OK, straight line, new topic. Despite that story above there, I have now recommended WOT to the people I'm staying with (who don't have any protection at all and almost just got a virus). They were very thankful and are now using it on all their computers. Looks like WOT has just found some new friends over in New Zealand... ;-)
FlyAqua
la 16. toukokuuta 2009 11:26:41 — cod head (ei varmistettu)Good news,but have you converted your parents yet.This Journey you are on,is it spiritual as in are you on another plane.Not a flying one more of freedom of earthly forces one.LOL.(G.O.M.with Honours).
Language Barrier
la 16. toukokuuta 2009 20:50:35 — FlyAquacod head: This Journey you are on,is it spiritual as in are you on another plane.Not a flying one more of freedom of earthly forces one.LOL.
(?)
Journey
la 16. toukokuuta 2009 13:06:50 — cod head (ei varmistettu)Well over here you often have spiritual people saying I am on a journey,like to find themselves.I was being a bit tonge in cheek,pulling your leg so as to speak asking if you are on a spiritual journey.Do not worry.The G.O.M. has wind again.(G.O.M.with Honours).
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la 16. toukokuuta 2009 20:51:53 — FlyAquaAh, I see. ;^)