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Additional security functions and WOT – where do we go next?
Sex 07 Nov 2008 12:20:37 UTC — Deborah S.We received interesting feedback and requests from the recent user survey about how WOT should develop its security protection. So just how far would you like to see WOT go? What is a likely next step?
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Additional security functions and WOT
Sex 07 Nov 2008 19:00:13 UTC — coolstudWould like to see the security settings passworded so no one can change the settings like the parent controllers on most security packages.
Parential control features
Seg 10 Nov 2008 09:08:57 UTC — Esa S.Thank you for a good idea Coolstud. Password protection could be added to settings, and also to the warning / blocking screen to enable the bypassing. Since WOT is technically an add-on, we can't prevent children from disabling the entire add-on by using the browser menu (or deleting the entire browser and re-installing it without WOT).
Parential control features
Qui 13 Nov 2008 17:32:04 UTC — coolstudHi Esa
" we can't prevent children from disabling the entire add-on by using the browser menu (or deleting the entire browser and re-installing it without WOT)."
I agree but parents like myself keep track of any changes done on the computers having disabled IE and Firefox customized with personal editing would notice if a new Firefox was installed.
Just encouraging to go ahead with the passworded feature if it can be added in the next version.
It would take any Internet
Seg 10 Nov 2008 12:23:03 UTC — YoKennyIt would take any Internet savvy youngster about as fast as they can log on to the Internet and see that WoT is active to disable it if they desire.
Responsible Parenting is needed here and the responsible use of the Internet taught to today's youngsters that know everything the minute it is on Twitter or Facebook.
It would take any Internet
Qua 12 Nov 2008 00:52:17 UTC — coolstudhi yokenny
"Responsible Parenting is needed here and the responsible use of the Internet taught to today's youngsters "
thats what i am doing three steps ahead of my children i have blocked editing the brower with userchrome.css thats why i love firefox and WOT will just make my perfect browser if passworded.
Agree
Seg 10 Nov 2008 18:28:47 UTC — BobJamYes, YoKenny, I certainly agree with the notion of responsible parenting.
"I don't know what's wrong with these kids these days . . . I don't know what this world is coming to."
Our parents said that when we wanted to see Elvis Presley on the Ed Sullivan show, and now we're saying it (at least I am anyway). Guess it's a perpetual refrain for every generation.
For those a little older...children may...eventually
Ter 06 Jan 2009 02:08:40 UTC — BackwoodYes parenting..but from 1995 to present itm is hard for parenting to keep up with opening communication to the entire net...(given normal mal sites ie porn etc) but older folks also have step-sons and mothers that do not understand what your trying to say....the internet is like a downtown mall...open for business in the light of day, but lock up everything and drop a metal gate in front of the store...I mean instead of drivng 102 mph in a 1968 Firebird ...they decide to type "Hacking" in google. Its like "Oceans whatever" but you can do it from the comfort of the entertainment room.
I password protect the firewall...but a quick look at Nirsoft and most of those can be found...not that Nirsoft is bad, but...
and "Google hacking Database" now there you can pick up a bad habit or 15. Parents, babysitter's take heart, it is an overwhelming technology that does not require asking for the "keys" to go to town....its all there..."What are you doing?" "Nothing just chatting...."
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My previous suggestions
Seg 10 Nov 2008 18:29:01 UTC — wehaveitallI still am pushing for the Ideas I had recommended a while ago in this post: http://www.mywot.com/en/forum/1443-new-wot-features
WOT ROCKS!
Here is an idea....
Ter 11 Nov 2008 21:14:20 UTC — LozfanOn any site that would be blocked by the user's security settings, block any scripts on that site. Some scripts might be hidden enough that they can install various malware even if the warning pops up. (ie. viruses, keyloggers,ect.) If added, make sure WOT still works if combined with addons like Firefox's NoScript.
agree to password feature
Qui 13 Nov 2008 14:09:32 UTC — greyfoxsyluxi entirely agree to the password feature. My brother's constantly end up in sites despite the fact the WOT warns them so they simply bypass it and then wreak havoc on my computer and then everything is destroyed. Having the password code would most certainly help.
Just don't let him use
Qui 13 Nov 2008 16:26:05 UTC — YoKennyJust don't let him use it.
"There is no technical solution to a management problem!"
Isn't there?
Sex 14 Nov 2008 06:17:03 UTC — BobJamIsn't there some kind of parental password locking feature in windows or browsers?
Or couldn't you install a "password" in the BIOS to keep him out completely?
Or couldn't you as administrator restrict access to certain software for his account?
I don't know the answers to any of these questions since my kids are long gone (son is 40 and daughter is 35), and I'm the only one who uses this machine (wife has Alzheimer's and is computer illiterate anyway).
There's a lot to discuss on the subject
Dom 16 Nov 2008 17:04:09 UTC — plasticmadnessRegarding kids browsing... it's so complicated!!
But hey i was reading the posts above, and i see a lot of talk about password protecting browsers and stuff, and i started to wonder: does everyone in your family use the same Windows Account??
Because if you think carefully, well, the most basic and essential thing, above all i guess, is to have your kids to use a different WINDOWS account than yours - rather than everyone in the family using the same account (usually the admin account). That because any regular user account depends on the admin's permissions to access certain features (a lot actually).
Another thing is using the internet router and the anti-virus to block certain sites (if you and your kid have two different windows accounts and you block the site from your admin account, there's no way the kid will hack tha blocked sites. and if he tries to use a proxy web for that, well you can always block the proxies). I know Avast Home Edition alllows you to block sites using wildcards, so that you can block a certain content and not an entire site; for your internet router you just have to enter the router adress (it's a default number you have to check on the user's manual) and block the sites you wan't.
As for a start page there's always Yahoo! Kids (old Yahooligans), and there's a Firefox add-on called Glubble - https://addons.mozilla.org/pt-BR/firefox/addon/5881 -
Another important thing is keep your kids away from social networking sites.
A few days ago a 9 year old girl called Rachel Genofre was raped, murdered and put inside a bag hidden under the staircase of a bus station in the city of Curitiba here in Brazil. She was a super smart kid, and guess what, she had her own profile page on Orkut. There were pictures of her on her profile, personal stuff she wrote, how easy was it for her to be the target of a pedophile?? How hideous can people be! So PLEASE keep your kids away from social networking sites at any cost.
Complicated, indeed...
Ter 18 Nov 2008 23:42:16 UTC — phantazmplasticmadness: "Regarding kids browsing... it's so complicated!!"
I agree, this is not a simple issue.
First of all, let us not just say "kids", as this is not a single group. Consider the teenager category: 13-19. If you're 19 you will most times be 'grown up', old enough for a lot of things. And obviously, if you are 13 you're most times not old enough, too young and still a "kid". Below 13 we still have a problem. A 12 year old is not a grown up person, not a teenager, but not a child either. Furthermore, children are also more then one singular category.
So, we need to be more specific...
PS: This really should be a new topic, so I have created a new thread: www.mywot.com/en/forum/1696-kids
Flash of the past
Qua 19 Nov 2008 01:01:53 UTC — wehaveitallAnother thing I've suggested before is a WOT spamfilter that works based on user reputations, or even a firewall working based on user reputations. As you can see, so far not many people have agreed with my ideas ... -_-
JOIN THE WOT GOOGLE GROUP AT http://groups.google.com/group/mywot/
Flash of the present
Qua 19 Nov 2008 04:27:05 UTC — phantazmIn principle I agree, that It could be a good idea.
I think the problem is probably more practical:
how is this best implemented..?
In short: not if, but how...
Ad Blocker
Qua 19 Nov 2008 21:43:49 UTC — catchyanowI would like to see a good ad blocker.
Re: Ad Blocker
Qua 19 Nov 2008 21:54:59 UTC — SamiI doubt we could improve on Adblock Plus, which already does an excellent job.
Why not..?
Qui 20 Nov 2008 12:50:20 UTC — phantazmYou could include the functionality, more or less directly.
A simple and automatic version would be nice for newbies,
who would then have less to worry about. Later, when they become
more experienced, I'd recommend NoScript or similar...
But this is really a new topic, so here it is:
www.mywot.com/en/forum/1701-blocking-controlling-the-gates
MVPS hosts file . . .
Qui 20 Nov 2008 03:57:14 UTC — BobJamHey catchyanow,
In addition to Adblock Plus, which is for Firefox, there's a hosts file here: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm that will block ads, and do it for IE too. Take a look.
to my mind
Qui 20 Nov 2008 21:47:31 UTC — ennereni also think that noscript can help. it's really work
Additional suggestion
Sex 21 Nov 2008 22:07:20 UTC — FreedomstarMaybe there could be a View Site Details link on the Blocked page like there is on a warning.
Late warning?
Seg 24 Nov 2008 07:51:22 UTC — Rater2319I was noticing how when I get a dangerous site alert the page still loads behind the alert. The page shouldn't load until I bypass the warning or get a chance to look at the details first. Whats the point of a waning about a site containing viruses, for example, if they're already downloaded and running on my computer?
Re: Late warning?
Seg 24 Nov 2008 10:34:58 UTC — SamiYou can enable blocking from warning settings if you don't want dangerous sites to load at all.
Newbies..?
Seg 24 Nov 2008 18:57:34 UTC — phantazmPerhaps "not loading a dangerous site" should be default?
Because newbies won't normally fiddle with settings,
and most other people are too busy with other things.
PS: I'll still suggest a new blocking option:
Block new and unknown sites: they may be dangerous.
If it's true that most scam sites live shorter than a week,
then it could be a good precaution to block anything,
if its age is less than a week.
This won't hurt an honest site, that will live for years.
But scam sites will really loose an opportunity...
;-)
More here: www.mywot.com/en/forum/1701-blocking-controlling-the-gates
Re: Newbies..?
Ter 25 Nov 2008 07:45:28 UTC — SamiPerhaps "not loading a dangerous site" should be default?
Better protecting new users is surely a noble idea. However, new users are also likely to simply uninstall the add-on if it gets in their way. Therefore, as unintuitive as it sounds, I'm inclined to believe that more users will be protected if the add-on by default doesn't block access to websites.
PS: I'll still suggest a new blocking option: Block new and unknown sites
How would you define a new site? There's already an option to block unrated sites though.
How new is new?
Seg 01 Dez 2008 23:44:36 UTC — phantazmSami: "How would you define a new site?"
Anything less than a week...
Agree with Sami
Ter 25 Nov 2008 10:47:02 UTC — BobJamPerhaps "not loading a dangerous site" should be default?
While phantazm's idea on that has merits, I do think that new users would be more inclined just to get rid of WOT if it "got in their way". Keeping and learning to use WOT, while that option may be less than optimum at first, is a heck of a lot better than the alternative of getting rid of it completely.
There are worse things than WOT...
Seg 01 Dez 2008 23:47:53 UTC — phantazmI people ignore WOT-warnings, and download dangerous sites, then
they''ll soon discover lots of other (nasty) things 'getting in their way'...
Simple Search Provider Addition
Seg 01 Dez 2008 21:28:52 UTC — ReprotectedWhy not add a support to the Search Provider for Firefox, for IE is easy, but since I don't know how to do it with Firefox, why not have people install the Search Provider (or add by clicking on the arrow thing on the top left of the second Text Bar a scroll down seeing WOT's website checker?
Just MyWOT and SpywareBlaster, I guess...