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    • shazza on Wed 18 Nov 2009
    • 01:36:01 PM UTC

    Protect your Children on Social Networking sites

    There is a new site setup to protect child users of social networking sites. Please
    take a look at this site ceop.police.uk and thinkuknow.co.uk
    ceop.police.uk
    thinkuknow.co.uk
    childline.org.uk
    nspcc.org.uk

    Bebo have placed panic button links to CEOP on their site but the 2 biggest social
    networking sites - Facebook and MySpace have rejected it, and I'm considering
    rating them both down for ethical issues in failing to protect their young users.

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    • BobJam (not verified) on Wed 18 Nov 2009
    • 03:26:49 PM UTC

    Low opinion

    I agree with your thoughts on rating down Facebook and MySpace.

    Though it's by no means sufficient to rate social networking sites down, I have a low opinion of them because IMO they are havens for malware and high risk.

    Obviously, I don't participate on those sites. My children are grown (35 and 41), but if they were young I would discourage their visiting these sites. (Actually, now that I think of it, they may visit these sites right now . . . though I haven't heard them remark on it . . . but since they are adults, they can suffer the consequences if they do . . . just don't send me an infected email).

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      • Delan Azabani on Thu 19 Nov 2009
      • 08:49:43 AM UTC

      I am a user of Facebook, and

      I am a user of Facebook, and in my opinion, it is the responsibility of the user to be knowledgeable about present threats including viruses, identity theft and defamation, and should personally take measures to avoid such consequences.

      A smart surfer is a successful surfer, even on social networking services. Unfortunately in this matter, I disagree with your opinion, BobJam.

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    • BobJam (not verified) on Thu 19 Nov 2009
    • 08:45:48 PM UTC

    Most surfers are not like us

    @Delan,

    The common user is not a smart surfer. If the majority were, then malware wouldn't be so prevalent.

    It is one thing to say that the responsibility is with the user, but yet another in reality . . . the reality is that most are not like you.

    It may be "profiling", but my sense is that the average social networking user is not what you would define as a "safe surfer". Some are, like yourself, but most aren't.

    I wouldn't be so bothered by this, and would be inclined to agree with you that it's "their responsibility", except "they" spread infections to other people. It's one thing to hold people responsible for their own calamities, but when they're responsible for other people's problems . . . I draw the line.

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    • rusty shackleford on Fri 20 Nov 2009
    • 03:45:39 AM UTC

    Most surfers don't care

    From what I've seen, most people don't care enough to learn about their computers, nor the dangers of the Internet. If theres a problem someone else can fix it. We are all like that with certain things. I myself couldn't care less about how to fix my car. As long as it gets me from a to b, safely. The OP stated "to protect child users". There is no excuse, not even the weakest or lamest, "I didn't know". Anyone that is a parent must do everything in our power to protect our kids. If that means learning about and having the right software, then that is the way it is. As i said before, I don't care about how my car works, but since my family's safety depends on it, I have done all that I can to make sure that I have purchased the best tires and breaks (IMO the 2 most important things) are the best I can afford.

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      • BobJam (not verified) on Fri 20 Nov 2009
      • 06:52:06 AM UTC

      Echo

      Parents are responsible for the welfare of their children. As I said, being responsible for your own calamities just means that you suffer the consequences. But when you are responsible for someone else (children in this case), then they suffer the consequences. Unsupervised surfing by children, who are not the most security conscious among other things . . . with the exception of those like Wehaveitall . . . is just asking for trouble.

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        • Delan Azabani on Fri 20 Nov 2009
        • 10:11:17 AM UTC

        except "they" spread

        except "they" spread infections to other people

        Hmm, I hadn't thought about the point that a not-so-safety-savvy surfer will not only be infected, but harbour the infection of others. Thanks for pointing that out.

        ...and I'm 13, by the way. Hopefully, more and more young people are becoming safer on the web.

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          • MysteryFCM on Fri 20 Nov 2009
          • 10:54:28 AM UTC

          ....

          "and I'm 13, by the way. Hopefully, more and more young people are becoming safer on the web"

          It's actually quite the opposite .......

          Regards
          Steven Burn
          Ur I.T. Mate Group / hpHosts
          it-mate.co.uk / hosts-file.net

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            • Delan Azabani on Fri 20 Nov 2009
            • 11:12:21 AM UTC

            So, people are becoming

            So, people are becoming "dumber" (for lack of a better way to express it) on the web? Someone must make some "awareness campaign" to "smarten up" these young web surfers then.

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            • Harry_debug on Fri 09 Apr 2010
            • 09:34:27 PM UTC

            I think the same way

            I think the same way

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    • Dante v3.11 on Fri 20 Nov 2009
    • 11:49:59 AM UTC

    So why does this thread exist

    This question goes around the world for many years now. Dont you think it is about time to wait, that the not so smart users get what they are earning?

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      • Delan Azabani on Fri 20 Nov 2009
      • 11:56:29 AM UTC

      If you read what BobJam said

      If you read what BobJam said a few posts ago, you'll realise that the reason why we are bringing this up is also because these less-bright people are inadvertently helping to spread viruses to us, not just getting it for themselves.

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    • Dante v3.11 on Fri 20 Nov 2009
    • 12:00:06 PM UTC

    Sorry

    Yes you are right. I apologize for that. But i don't think we can do something.
    One sick idea of me would be that all of us need a DriversLicense for InternetUsage :D

    You have to Certify yourself before youre allowed to play in the big bad world.

    But appearently that wouldn't work either

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    • shazza on Fri 20 Nov 2009
    • 03:18:08 PM UTC

    Back on topic!

    Thank you for all the valuable comments, but can we get back to the original topic please
    CEOP.
    This is mainly to prevent the sexual exploitation of your children online, and imo any
    measures available such as the panic button should be implemented on ALL social
    networking sites, and it is our responsibility as active members of wot to promote this.

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      • MysteryFCM on Fri 20 Nov 2009
      • 03:58:32 PM UTC

      .....

      Couldn't agree more.

      Regards
      Steven Burn
      Ur I.T. Mate Group / hpHosts
      it-mate.co.uk / hosts-file.net

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    • shazza on Fri 09 Apr 2010
    • 04:59:24 PM UTC

    Facebook group

    Anyone who feels strongly about this can now join the group -
    Facebook should have a CEOP button