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    • ekolis on Wed 23 Aug 2017
    • 09:36:46 PM UTC

    Archiving reviews of sites when they change ownership?

    Not sure how that would work exactly, but for instance there are a lot of negative reviews of remote.com which is just a job listings board; maybe it used to be a scam site, but it's not anymore. These negative reviews are hurting sites just because they happen to have the same URL as a former scam site; that seems very unfair! Maybe if there were some way to archive the old reviews when a site changes ownership?

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    • destinationtruth on Wed 23 Aug 2017
    • 10:33:34 PM UTC

    RE: Archiving reviews of sites when they change ownership?

    The problem here ekolis is that a scam site could just change owners (pretend to have) just to get the rating back down. All ratings lose weight over time and new / improved ones should take care of the issue. . . though agree how this can be detrimental to a new site that takes a bad domain name.

    We (WoT) doesn't track domain ownership in the algorithm, just the domain.

    _https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/no-winner/

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    • Satchman on Fri 01 Sep 2017
    • 09:56:23 PM UTC

    RE: Archiving reviews of sites when they change ownership?

    Originally posted by: destinationtruth
    The problem here ekolis is that a scam site could just change owners (pretend to have) just to get the rating back down. All ratings lose weight over time and new / improved ones should take care of the issue. . . though agree how this can be detrimental to a new site that takes a bad domain name.

    We (WoT) doesn't track domain ownership in the algorithm, just the domain.

    Agree!

    Satch

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    • Myxt on Sat 02 Sep 2017
    • 08:41:18 AM UTC

    RE: Archiving reviews of sites when they change ownership?

    ... and there's more:
    - New site, named the same as an old one - unlikely.
    - Same old site, gutted, parked, and resold by "domainers" - usually.

    Whether you buy a house, car, business, or domain, due diligence is your responsibility to avoid the kind of lemons which will never make palatable lemonade. Particularly, such as pornwretch.con will not fly as a carpentry shop, yet I've seen people try something similar. It makes no sense to give a domain a free pass because its new owner failed to do his homework and was too lazy to create a new domain name with zero baggage - speaking of first impressions.

    About remote.com, the first thing I notice is that it's a job board. (Well yeah.) That means it needs to manage PII. (OK ...) However its domain registration is cloaked by an outfit located in Grand Cayman, and its ToS states, "Full Address of Designated Agent: 1860 El Camino Real, Burlingame, CA 94010", which cannot be a full address because it lacks the suite number in this office tower, in which some spaces are "For Lease":
    https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5961862,-122.38469...
    (apologies, Mods: the new Forum is cropping long text strings)
    ... or you can email support(at)remote.com in case of identity crisis. The Privacy Policy provides no exit plan in case the business quits, but at least your PII will by then be in the hands of several undisclosed third-party "Service Providers". Nowhere on this site is there a Contact or other page explicitly stating the business address. (ONO.)

    Given that a lot of so-called job sites are mainly in the business of collecting intimate personal details (I consider my physical address and SSN very intimate) and not rreeaallyy in the business of actually helping people be gainfully employed, I would not approach this 3-month-old new site with anything less than an armored browser and wading boots.

    And finally, for your amusement, Google> site:remote.com [term]
    where "term" is such as: escorts, viagra, and similar. This one's appealing:
    _https://remote.com/andnrzej-obama-730148?ref=brandedme
    but he's probably only alone in his mind.

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    • alphacentauri on Mon 04 Sep 2017
    • 05:25:49 PM UTC

    RE: Archiving reviews of sites when they change ownership?

    While these considerations make sense to us, the vast majority of website owners are actually in another business and just using the internet to the extent they must. They have no idea about how to check the reputation of a site in the first place, else the sites with poor reputations wouldn't still exist long enough to get renewed.

    If you've just launched a tiny business and find a domain name that perfectly matches the name of your business is available, you will (and should) snatch it up. It's absurd to let someone else register it -- maybe even a fraudster whose bad reputation may end up extending to your business -- just because a previous fraudster used it years ago.

    Fraudsters and spammers don't care if they pollute the reputations of every available domain name available, 20 minute spam runs at a time. They greatly reduce the options available to the rest of us, and domain speculators finish the job.

    We don't have to help them. If I can establish that a domain returned to the registry, so it was at one point available to anyone on the internet, I will rescind my rating. You can't simultaneously believe that a domain is so valuable spammers will fake new ownership yet so worthless they're willing to let go of control of it and hope they can grab it back months later when the registrar releases it to the registry.

    Yes, WOT has a wiki. Check there first for fast answers to many questions like "Why is my site rated red, and how do I fix that?"

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    • Myxt on Tue 05 Sep 2017
    • 05:29:27 AM UTC

    RE: Archiving reviews of sites when they change ownership?

    Originally posted by: alphacentauri
    If I can establish that a domain returned to the registry, so it was at one point available to anyone on the internet, I will rescind my rating.

    Rescinding my rating is the easy part; but how does one verify that I didn't transfer ownership of abc.xyz to my buddy, Smack Fu, this week - without paying a subscription fee for domain history reports? That's something I have yet to discover.

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    • A440 on Thu 07 Sep 2017
    • 03:44:10 AM UTC

    RE: Archiving reviews of sites when they change ownership?

    Damn that Smack Fu. He grifted me once!
    ^_^