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Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to you?

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    • Super Hero! (not verified) on Sun 06 Dec 2015
    • 02:42:34 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    @all =
    I am here because the Web Of Trust,says it so clearly .............. Trust!
    Trust makes the difference, when I am browsing the internet, but it goes beyond that
    My whole life is affected by my perception of trust, I could not imagine sharing my friendship, love and finally business, if I don't trust the person or the place
    I have walked out of restaurants just because some small detail about the cleanliness of the place or the lack willingness of the staff to be courteous will make me distrust the place or most importantly, the chef
    Sadly, I no longer give explanations as I noticed that owners or managers are more interested in being right than willing to listen to me complain, a good source to improve the trust factor about the place
    Yes, trust from a site based on the scorecard is extremely important to me, though the green circle or doughnut is the first sign that will alert me about site, there are parameters or exceptions to that rule, there are sites that I do not trust and their rating is full green or the opposite, in which a site for a zoo site is in red, I could explain the green, but the red has been more difficult to understand
    In my case, it helps that I have created my inner circle of trusted members, if I see a comment by a trusted member that contradicts the majority of the ratings, I will contact the member and get more information about the rating, but I will trust her or his rating
    And that goes for all members, regardless of the nationality
    By the way, whoever came up with the idea of resurrecting the section for the polls
    Thank you :-)

  2. Often enough, if a site has low confidence, the reasons for such are pretty obvious.
    If a site has a low confidence rating but I see nothing immediately that would warrant that, I dig deeper to see just what the history of the site or business is, just in case there is a hidden issue.

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    • Satchman on Mon 07 Dec 2015
    • 07:01:22 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    I voted,

    I don't usually pay attention to the confidence rating. I think my views are between that and somewhat interesting. I would like to feel more confident about the Confidence Rating, but there are too many WOT sites that are given high Confidence Ratings because they are popular, not because they are safe. WOT is about TRUST not popularity. That is one of the current issues with the software.

    I talk about this in the "How to Improve WOT" at the forum here:

    https://www.mywot.com/forum/61454-updated-threa...

    When confidence levels get closer to an assessment of Web Site safety and not popularity, I would than say the Confidence Rating is important. However, as popular sites that have a full level of shaded in people can almost never be rated down, even by Platinum members, the Confidence Rating to me is not as important as it could be for future releases. I will take web trust over web popularity any day.

    Regards,

    Satch

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    • Super Hero! (not verified) on Mon 07 Dec 2015
    • 10:12:38 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    @A440 & Satchman =
    Both of you, brought good points!
    hidden issue
    And
    Ratings because they are popular, not because they are safe
    Let it be a false positive or a social media
    These are are big challenges
    I will work harder on both of them, though I will be a lonely rater [rating in red] social media sites; who can beat a billion users on Facebook?
    Sooner than later, most people will wake up from their golden slumbers, to realize that, when it comes to personal information safety, they are in the wrong site
    Hopefully in 2016, WOT will be able to overcome obstacles like these, at least the users of FB have at their disposal the add-on to navigate the net

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    • TheMadLady on Tue 08 Dec 2015
    • 11:44:50 AM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    I very usually pay attention to the rating, and most especially on sites where I don't know where I'm going. I can usually be assured that the rating is worth it, and this is especially true on less-often visited sites, where a malware warning is a huge help.

    But there are times when I ignore it, especially in companies such as Monsanto where people rate it down because of politics, rather than because of issues with the site itself.

    Depending on the site, I may just ignore it, but nearly all the time I won't.

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    • Super Hero! (not verified) on Tue 08 Dec 2015
    • 12:59:13 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    But there are times when I ignore it, especially in companies such as Monsanto where people rate it down because of politics
    I rated it as red as possible and it has nothing to do with politics, but ethics or lack of them, but is my opinion of trust, as you are entitled to yours
    The hard fact is that our opinion is subjective to a myriad of factors and WOT is not an antivirus, though, is connected to trusted sites that could do that and more, but at the end, regardless of how we feel about it, is all about trust
    Is up to you, to ignore my documented comments or not, but is not about politics, far from it
    Welcome to WOT =

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    • Stephen Allen on Fri 11 Dec 2015
    • 08:04:12 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    I always take it with a grain of salt, as in my experience many people rating via WOT, tend to allow their personal morality to determine a ratings, rather than being impartial. We don't need moral crusaders thank-you very much.

    What we do need is people that advise us on criminal situations, malware and scams. Not morality! Especially those that are devoutly religious, whom tend to go down this path. Oh, and before I forget, always use a script-blocker extension in your browser!

    Always wear clean underwear!

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    • Super Hero! (not verified) on Fri 11 Dec 2015
    • 10:58:20 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    @ Stephen Allen =
    We don't need moral crusaders thank-you very much.
    Au contraire as you seem to speak French with the oui [we]
    Not morality! Especially those that are devoutly religious
    I am devout to my religious beliefs and do a heck of a job, rating as fairly as possible, mostly because my religious believes
    @all =
    Rate your opinion in a free manner, remembering that is your responsibility, enough we have with scammers, spammers and other amoral and immoral owners who care less about your principles and more about your money and if possible your private information
    We all need new members that, are willing to go that extra mile, to make the net safer, regardless of their beliefs or lack of them, like the ones that we have and trust ..................... the old days are gone, we are much better now
    We are WOT --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mы WOT
    BTW, happy Christmas to all and a happy New Year -------------------------------------------------- Cчастливый Рождества всем и счастливого Нового года

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    • WDSWatsDaScoop (not verified) on Sat 12 Dec 2015
    • 03:36:34 AM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    Originally posted by: Super Hero!
    @all =
    I am here because the Web Of Trust,says it so clearly .............. Trust!
    Trust makes the difference, when I am browsing the internet, but it goes beyond that
    My whole life is affected by my perception of trust, I could not imagine sharing my friendship, love and finally business, if I don't trust the person or the place
    I have walked out of restaurants just because some small detail about the cleanliness of the place or the lack willingness of the staff to be courteous will make me distrust the place or most importantly, the chef
    Sadly, I no longer give explanations as I noticed that owners or managers are more interested in being right than willing to listen to me complain, a good source to improve the trust factor about the place
    Yes, trust from a site based on the scorecard is extremely important to me, though the green circle or doughnut is the first sign that will alert me about site, there are parameters or exceptions to that rule, there are sites that I do not trust and their rating is full green or the opposite, in which a site for a zoo site is in red, I could explain the green, but the red has been more difficult to understand
    In my case, it helps that I have created my inner circle of trusted members, if I see a comment by a trusted member that contradicts the majority of the ratings, I will contact the member and get more information about the rating, but I will trust her or his rating
    And that goes for all members, regardless of the nationality
    By the way, whoever came up with the idea of resurrecting the section for the polls
    Thank you :-)

    Very well said!

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    • deadmoto on Sun 13 Dec 2015
    • 07:05:03 AM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    I guess rating could be a grade 1 to 5.
    Grade 1 to 100 is too elaborate and confuses people.

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    • privacyseeker on Sun 13 Dec 2015
    • 12:28:23 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    Confidence level is not equal to the reliability of the score, unfortunately.
    At least, it was not until now.
    However, the confidence level gives some indication about the trustworthiness of the rating.

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    • Site-rater on Sun 13 Dec 2015
    • 01:55:15 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    Originally posted by: deadmoto
    I guess rating could be a grade 1 to 5.
    Grade 1 to 100 is too elaborate and confuses people.

    Actually the scorecard is just displaying something that has always been in internal component of the WOT rating system. Ratings have always been on a scale from 1 to 100, and the scorecard is just now exposing that data.

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    • Zirnitra on Sun 13 Dec 2015
    • 06:18:13 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    There are many sites voted green and yet they have major problems but, due to popularity, they're given votes of 'confidence' when I am, it seems, in the minority by indicating a lack of confidence in the sites due to its lack of trustworthiness. WOT is votes made by people and many will rate a site highly because they enjoy it even when it is clearly not trustworthy. Hopefully, WOT can continue to improve with members being more objective about sites. If sites are involved with phishing, spam, malware, and other malicious behaviours, then no matter how good they can appear (at first 'bite', as an analogy), they need to be given low ratings because they're rosy bloom disguises a rotten core (yes, analogy to Shakespeare about the heart of men-I'm a bibliophile and a classicist).

    Maybe there could be a move within and by those members of WOT who are willing to be as objective as possible about rating sites in order to try to ensure sites ratings are based not on their appeal and/or popularity (and publicity/PR has a lot to answer for here) but on just how trustworthy they are (i.e., do they try to have people sign up for 'free registration' to watch movies which don't turn out to be free and involve them 'requiring' your personal information (from your name and address to your credit card) so you may be 'a registered user' allowed to watch movies and tv shows)?

    If anyone else at WOT thinks it is feasible to band together, after we work out a way to checking out each other's general trustworthiness (hence, integrity!), to be a group of the WOT Community who will rate sites as fairly as we can based on their trustworthiness (and not popularity or surface appearance), who wants to ensure people are warned about sites that want our personal information (unnecessarily), contain malicious files (malware, etc) in seemingly innocent downloads, are spam, scams, and cause po-up ads and redirections to black-listed websites (eg. wbredirect.com ) etc., and who are willing to do what we can to research the suspect sites when information may be sketchy or biased in their favour, then say so here and perhaps we may be able to make more of a difference as members of WOT. After all, WOT is rated by its members and it is called Web Of TRUST and only members of WOT can make the difference. I'm willing to be involved as just described, and if others here are too then please indicate that and we can take it from there!

  14. The confidence indicator is very important to me, often I visit websites which are not or hardly rated.
    If a site has a green donut but 0 of 5 at the indicator, I know that this rating might be meaningless and I have to do a better research on it.
    Before WOT 3.0 I could check the scorecard without visiting the site, now I have to visit it and look it up at the WOT addon popup, not a good deal with malicious sites.

    + its the same with the categories which were removed from the scorecard.
    (The new rings at the scorecard don't event fit the WOT donut design)

    Sorry but I hate! the new WOT 3.0 look; it wastes to much space on my 15" screen, useful features are gone...
    WOT 2.0 were quite perfect.

    Trust: And it's gone!

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    • Matiks (not verified) on Mon 14 Dec 2015
    • 06:20:33 AM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    I agree, it is important for me too. It could be symbolized as digital signal bars

    Also, website description could have a colored border (like for comments) to accentuate the current rating.

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    • Super Hero! (not verified) on Mon 14 Dec 2015
    • 04:46:51 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    Originally posted by: Matiks
    I agree, it is important for me too. It could be symbolized as digital signal bars

    Also, website description could have a colored border (like for comments) to accentuate the current rating.

    I love it and I second it =
    edit -
    I wonder if it could be in different shades of green, withe highest bar in strong green

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    • hopeworks55 on Wed 16 Dec 2015
    • 03:28:39 AM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    The confidence rating is extremely important as it is the very core of WOT's policy and beliefs. If one doesn't take this part of WOT seriously, then the whole point of WOT has been lost, at least to that particular person. Yes, I know not all reviews are 100% correct and/or deserve the rating they got, but especially these days, it gives those of us who know nothing about the company something to help us in our research if it's worth joining.

    It's hard to learn about a company and if it's worth joining as research takes time, and I've started seeing a trend where time is becoming out biggest enemy, simply because we never seem to have enough time, and once it's gone, it's gone; you can't get it back.

    Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion on this.
    Warmly,
    Corinne Larimore

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    • Super Hero! (not verified) on Wed 16 Dec 2015
    • 05:27:14 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    @ hopeworks55
    Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion on this.
    Warmly,
    Corinne Larimore

    Welcome to WOT =
    Your opinion is highly appreciated as we encourage the free expression of it, not just that, we give our opinion about trust when rating a site, there will be times when will disagree, but in a respectful manner, everyone is entitled to it, as it should be I agree with your opinion as stated in your post and I hope you stay with us in our journey to make the net safer, for the world
    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year [time runs or flies too fast] and if you don't observe the holidays, then merry days off and a great New Year
    Feel free to ask anyone if you find yourself in need of help and please include me as it will be an honor to help you or guide you to someone that can
    Best regards

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    • userabc0 on Sat 26 Dec 2015
    • 12:28:15 AM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    I have a REAL problem with the ratings. There are too many sites that have almost ALL NEGATIVE COMMENTS, but they have a POSITIVE RATING; conversely there are sites with almost ALL POSITIVE COMMENTS that have a NEGATIVE RATING. How is anyone supposed to trust WOT? I think that a lot of times, negative comments are left by people who didn't earn money with programs because they didn't follow instructions or they didn't do anything at all. Then they blame the site. That's unfair. I would NEVER promote WOT because I have ZERO confidence in the rating system.

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    • kwneff on Mon 28 Dec 2015
    • 09:54:08 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    I may glance at confidence ratings, but it is not a major consideration for me. For sites that are not green, I will check the ratings/comments. If most of the negative ratings are by platinum users, I am more likely to consider it a bad / unreliable rating. I put a higher stock in the comments by the bronze to gold users as they can not do mass ratings based simply on some list they found, whether or not that list is reliable.

  21. Very important. The word is Trust. This site is very helpful and I use it all the time.

  22. Confidence is synonymous to reliability.
    The confidence indicators visually display the reliability of the overall reputation at any particular time and is just as important on the scorecard as it is within the API; ref: https://www.mywot.com/wiki/API#Reputation_and_conf...

    If the scorecard displays a high confidence level, then it's safe to assume the reputation is valid for that domain at that time.
    If the confidence level is low, then the reputation may be questionable.
    Remember, when a domain's reputation falls below the confidence threshold, it returns to an unrated state.

    ∞ Opto, ergo sum _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_You_and_I

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    • Site-rater on Sat 02 Jan 2016
    • 05:35:59 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    Originally posted by: Matiks
    I agree, it is important for me too. It could be symbolized as digital signal bars

    Also, website description could have a colored border (like for comments) to accentuate the current rating.

    I just came up with this concept:
    MyWOT scorecard confidence concept
    Feel free to use it; I just copied the dots from the add-on. Base image is of the mywot.com scorecard taken today, confidence dots from the add-on screenshot of same page.

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    • Apollo702 on Sun 10 Jan 2016
    • 10:05:48 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    Once again I will be Captain Lotsofdetails and I will explain why I think this should be one tool among many.

    It is an improvement to have confidence as a factor. It is valuable to know not just what the ratings are- but how deep they are. I think that some have misunderstood this thread. It is meant to examine this singular feature- not the entire process of reviewing sites.

    Where things haven't changed is I never just look at the colored ring and leave it at that(disclosure: I also do this for a living ) I take every site and give it a look up and down. I check everything running in the background and decide through tools such as NoScript and Request Policy(among others) if things are allowed to run in the background- and then each of those items gets a detailed look too.

    Then if the site comes up clean I read it's privacy policy in detail( but the number and severity of the trackers and/or 3rd party ad services pretty much reveals their attitudes on that subject) and then I read/watch content, weigh in factors such as design/presentation and then make a decision on what I think.

    The bottom line:
    ---------------------------

    Evaluating websites should take time. The confidence rating isn't a panacea. It is one tool among many to help users make decisions.

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    • donalaio on Mon 11 Jan 2016
    • 06:00:55 AM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    I use Web of Trust especially to warn me from stumbling into sites which could harm my computer, steal my identity and so on. However, I often find that warnings are often given for sites where light is being shown in to dark rooms, populated by those who attach the name of their group or cause to the ending -ophobe, as if they are creating a new psychiatric diagnosis, then screaming that word at any person, group or website which is not a part of them.

    I just came here from a site with a big red warning, promulgated by a few people who have apparently gotten all their cousins together to down-rate the site, even using the exact wording, copied and pasted, to accomplish their goal of warning people away from a perfectly safe and, for some, useful site. There must be a term for flooding one site (WOT) with multiple copies of the same thing, often from the same person. To that I say: I object.

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    • Super Hero! (not verified) on Mon 11 Jan 2016
    • 06:49:21 AM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    Originally posted by: donalaio
    I use Web of Trust especially to warn me from stumbling into sites which could harm my computer, steal my identity and so on. However, I often find that warnings are often given for sites where light is being shown in to dark rooms, populated by those who attach the name of their group or cause to the ending -ophobe, as if they are creating a new psychiatric diagnosis, then screaming that word at any person, group or website which is not a part of them.

    I just came here from a site with a big red warning, promulgated by a few people who have apparently gotten all their cousins together to down-rate the site, even using the exact wording, copied and pasted, to accomplish their goal of warning people away from a perfectly safe and, for some, useful site. There must be a term for flooding one site (WOT) with multiple copies of the same thing, often from the same person. To that I say: I object.


    There are some problems with this site
    Unsecured and not trusted
    ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=appstechnology.net
    Hidden Whois
    Registrant Org WHOIS PRIVACY PROTECTION SERVICE, INC. was found in ~2,170,817 other domains
    whois.domaintools.com/thequran.com

    The site is commercial and due to the fact that money is involved in transactions from the site, in my opinion is not to be trusted until these issues are solved

    People are entitled to their opinions and in this, there is nothing that WOT can do, personally I may agree or disagree, but is the foundation of secular nations to allow individuals to express freely these opinions

    I am not rating the site, as is not in the appropriate forum to do so, but I hope that this helps explain one of the reasons, for a non trusted rate

    Good luck
    edit -
    I noticed that you rated the site, overlooking their problems

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    • plexorite on Thu 21 Jan 2016
    • 11:49:34 AM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    Originally posted by: TheMadLady

    But there are times when I ignore it, especially in companies such as Monsanto where people rate it down because of politics, rather than because of issues with the site itself.

    Depending on the site, I may just ignore it, but nearly all the time I won't.

    Hi there,
    After being out Cyberspace since it was invented, I've always thought of myself as hard to scam. BUT the last year or so, the criminals out there have become far more dangerous thanks to modern technology.
    The greatest threat to us all is the lack of security/policing of the Net - which is a thorny problem. Your example of Monsanto is a good one: Almost nothing of that company is humane or truthful and the Website is a minefield of lies and half-truths - very much like the USA's FDA (the ultimate example of public danger). We need to be aware of what "politics" actually means!

    Your last point is your best practise of all, outside of personally trusted(AND experienced) friends.
    For example - had I "WOTted" the anti-virus Site enigmasoftware.com first, I'd have saved myself a lot of grief.
    (It is completely rubbished to the degree that no more comments are allowed, apparently?)
    But, other Sites may be "suspect" somewhat, but the comments can help you decide if you want to go ahead.

    A very valuable service, WOT.

    ---------------------------- Know when to quit - most valuable lesson of all. Father's advice at 96: "Don't worry - what will get you, you never see coming, anyway."

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    • Site-rater on Thu 21 Jan 2016
    • 11:31:44 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    Originally posted by: BFeely
    I just came up with this concept:
    MyWOT scorecard confidence concept
    Feel free to use it; I just copied the dots from the add-on. Base image is of the mywot.com scorecard taken today, confidence dots from the add-on screenshot of same page.

    By the way, if you choose to implement it, make sure to have the mouseover tip to describe confidence just like the old scorecard had when you would mouse over the filled in people silhouettes.

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    • Super Hero! (not verified) on Fri 22 Jan 2016
    • 02:30:18 PM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    Originally posted by: BFeely
    By the way, if you choose to implement it, make sure to have the mouseover tip to describe confidence just like the old scorecard had when you would mouse over the filled in people silhouettes.

    Nice and practical as I mentioned earlier, I was about to mention what I thought it would be an issue, but thanks fot the explanation
    OT =
    Do we have a site 100% with a 100% trustworthiness?
    MyWOT is 93/93
    Thank you and great job!
    edit -
    I know the question is silly, but I was wondering :-)

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    • hartlrobert on Tue 09 Feb 2016
    • 07:41:30 AM UTC

    RE: Scorecard update: How important is the confidence rating to

    Trust is very important but not always visible. Therefore credibility is the key - and here comes WOT. Most of the ratings are valuable. Sometimes in my eyes hero ratings weight to much, but that is another topic.