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It's impossible to even remotely accurately read rem from eeg signals from a ground placed on the forehead, the leads can be on the forehead but the ground must be on the mastoid bone. You need multiple leads and an amplifier. The product has no proper ground location, something you absolutely need for precision. All they have done is quickly place all electrodes in a cheap strait line on the forehead. Nobody who has worked extensively in any area of eeg tec would even consider such horrid placement, other than people out to make a quick buck. Edit: It's now ***** the kick starter guaranteed a release by nov 2014 they owe a lot of people a product since they all funded it, saying you have a finished design then changing it three times is enough for me to call scam on this company. Especially since their now taking countless preorders at 299. If you want to preorder this triple redesigned cash grab, realize they have $250,000 worth of units to ship (already a year late) before they can remotely deliver yours. Have fun in five years when they finally ship the kick starter units. Also have to throw in that they are using child labor in china. I consider using children to make a product as unethical discrimination Yes that is a big claim to make, and yes Apple uses this also, but they revealed this themselves, by taking a new promotional picture with the ceo, and very young children are clearly visible in the picture while working on their year late redesigned mess. And they didn't even have the sense to photo shop out the kid. Apple would never use that picture as a promotional. I really can not believe this site has such a good rep? How? The people who are ratting this good are out $200 for something they brought and were promised last year and still don't have it. I hate to call other wot members ignorant, but I must in this case. To anyone who ratted this good, cause like they will be giving me like instant lucid dreams if they succeed and they should get positive feedback no mater what. Wake up call lucid dreaming is not something you swallow or consume in a product. It's a self discovery journey you discover yourself. But go ahead and wast money on horrible crap with no science or proper tec behind it, and by all means rate it good a year out of your wasted money. Edit2: It's now just about 2017, three years later and no product. Bet the kick starters are kicking themselves. Oh and they are still taking pre orders ;P XD IF you pre order now, you still have the $250,000 worth of kickstarters ahead of you plus whatever fools pre ordered in the last three years since it was supposed to be ready, in other words you will be scammed at this point if you pre order. They may get the kick starter units out, so they don't get sued or loose all the kickstarter funds. But at this point they will fold after that, since they had three year head start to make them, and still haven't. My good luck in five year's when the kick starter units are done joke only has two years to go to be true. Edit3: They this is their words They just celebrated on their site: "Mass Production Update #10" , what? All the kickstarters done? Pre orders on the way? Amazing progress? No! "100 assembled devices delivered to our lab!" That is not mass production. That is 8% of their kick starter units only. 8% of the units promised to be done in 2014. They only have 92% of the kick starter units to go before they get to the pre orders. 100 units man they don't know what mass production is. They will miss the 2017 launch, just like the 2014 one I guarantee it. They missed every launch because they had no actual design when they kickstarted. It will be a zeo, it's never been anything other than a slightly altered zeo, and a zeo can not detect rem well.